The areas occupied by power systems for electricity generation by various energy sources for 60 years are shown in table 1. Wind and solar have short lives, i.e., 20 to 25 years, but nuclear has a life of about 60 years. Any large-scale build-out of wind and solar would have a much larger “footprint” area than nuclear.
- Nuclear produces 84 times more electricity per acre than solar during 60 years.
- Nuclear produces 612 times more electricity per acre than onshore wind during 60 years
- Nuclear produces 980 times more electricity per acre than offshore wind during 60 years
In addition:
- All PV panels would be replaced in about year 25 and year 50, which would reduce generation during a 60-y period.
- Onshore wind turbines would require major refurbishment and replacement in about year 25 and year 50, which would reduce generation during a 60-y period, based on European onshore wind experience.
- Offshore wind turbines would require major refurbishment and replacement in about year 20 and year 40, and year 60, which would reduce generation during the 60-y period, based on European offshore wind experience.
http://energyskeptic.com/2018/wind/?fbclid=IwAR3u-kxMrxTGSDHNBS-_-E...
Table 1/Land area |
Acre/MW |
CF |
Generation at site |
Generation at site |
Nuclear |
MWh/acre/y |
MWh/acre/60y |
Times better |
|||
Nuclear |
0.5 |
0.90 |
15779 |
946728 |
1 |
Solar, field-mounted |
7 |
0.15 |
188 |
11271 |
84 |
Wind, onshore |
102 |
0.30 |
26 |
1547 |
612 |
Wind, offshore |
245 |
0.45 |
16 |
966 |
980 |
CF = capacity factor
Offshore wind has high acreage/MW, due to spacing requirements to minimize shadowing, and onshore wind due to setback requirements to reduce noise impacts on nearby people.
https://www.4coffshore.com/windfarms/vineyard-wind-united-states-us...
Table 2/Offshore |
||
Vineyard Wind 1 |
MW |
|
Project capacity, MW |
800 |
|
Project area, sq mile |
306 |
|
Turbine capacity, MW |
|
8 - 10 |
Turbine height, ft |
|
700 - 750 |
Area, acre |
306 x 640 |
195840 |
Area, acre/MW |
195840/800 |
245 |
. |
||
Onshore, ridgeline |
||
Turbine capacity, MW |
3 |
|
Turbine height, ft |
|
500 |
Project turbines |
21 |
|
Project capacity, MW |
3 x 21 |
63 |
Turbines/mile |
7 |
|
Turbine spacing, ft |
5280/7 |
754 |
Ridgeline length, mile |
21/7 |
3 |
Ridgeline setback, mile |
1 |
|
Land area length, mile |
5 |
|
Land area width, mile |
2 |
|
Land area, acre |
2 x 5 x 640 |
6400 |
Area, acre/MW |
6400/63 |
102 |
Area For World Electricity Generation
World electricity generation was about 25000 TWh in 2017. An assumed generation mix and areas are shown in table 3. Nuclear would require about 619 sq miles to generated 25% of the world’s electricity generation in 2017. Wind and solar would require much larger areas.
- Nuclear would require only 1% of the land area of New York State to generate 25%, of the world's electricity .
- (Solar 1.1 + Onshore wind 4.01 + Offshore wind 6.43)/2 = 11.54/2 = 5.77 times the land area of New York State to generate 25% of the world's electricity.
- Subsidizing the build-outs of wind and solar, instead of nuclear is lunacy to the nth degree. See table 3
https://yearbook.enerdata.net/electricity/world-electricity-product...
Table3/World generation mix |
|
|
|
|
|
|
% |
TWh/y |
|||||
Nuclear |
25 |
6250 |
||||
Solar |
25 |
6250 |
||||
Wind, onshore |
12.5 |
3125 |
||||
Wind, offshore |
12.5 |
3125 |
||||
Hydro and other |
25 |
6250 |
||||
Total |
100 |
25000 |
||||
47190 sq mi land |
||||||
Acre/MW |
CF |
Generation |
Area |
Area |
New York State |
|
MWh/acre/y |
Acre |
Sq mi |
Fraction |
|||
Nuclear |
0.5 |
0.90 |
15779 |
396101 |
619 |
0.013 |
Solar, field-mounted |
7 |
0.15 |
188 |
33272492 |
51988 |
1.102 |
Wind, onshore |
102 |
0.30 |
26 |
121206936 |
189386 |
4.013 |
Wind, offshore |
245 |
0.45 |
16 |
194089538 |
303265 |
6.426 |
Capital Cost Comparison of Nuclear, Solar, Wind onshore, Wind offshore
- Each energy source provides 25% of the world’s electricity generation.
- A standard nuclear plant is assumed at 2000 MW on 1000 acres.
- Nuclear requires 1.31%; solar 110%; wind onshore 803%; and wind offshore 1285% of New York State land area.
- Grid expansion is assumed at 15% of plant capital cost for all energy sources
- Solar and wind require energy storage for peaking, filling in and balancing, or gas turbines that can quickly vary their outputs to compensate for the variable, intermittent outputs of weather/sun-dependent wind and solar. See Appendix.
- Subsidizing the build-outs of wind and solar, instead of nuclear is lunacy to the nth degree. See table 4.
Table 4 |
Nuclear |
Solar |
Wind, onshore |
Wind, offshore |
Plant capacity, MW |
2000 |
100 |
100 |
250 |
Acre/MW |
0.5 |
7 |
102 |
245 |
Plant site area, acre |
1000 |
700 |
10200 |
61250 |
h/y |
8766 |
8766 |
8766 |
8766 |
CF |
0.90 |
0.15 |
0.30 |
0.45 |
Plant generation, MWh/y |
15778800 |
131490 |
262980 |
986175 |
Generation, MWh/acre/y |
15779 |
188 |
26 |
16 |
World generation, TWh/y |
25000 |
25000 |
25000 |
25000 |
25% of World, TWh/y |
6250 |
6250 |
6250 |
6250 |
Plant area, acre |
396101 |
33272492 |
242413872 |
388179076 |
Plant area, sq mile |
619 |
51988 |
378772 |
606530 |
New York State land area, sq mi |
47190 |
47190 |
47190 |
47190 |
Percent of NYS land area |
1.31 |
110 |
803 |
1285 |
Number of plants |
396 |
47532 |
23766 |
6338 |
Cost, $million/MW |
5.00 |
2.00 |
2.50 |
4.00 |
Capital cost per plant, $billion |
10.00 |
0.20 |
0.25 |
1.00 |
Grid, 0.15 of plant cost, $billion |
1.50 |
0.03 |
0.04 |
0.15 |
Total plant cost, $billion |
11.50 |
0.23 |
0.29 |
1.15 |
Capital cost, $billion |
4555 |
10932 |
6833 |
7288 |
Energy Storage |
|
Required |
Required |
Required |
Wind and Solar Environmental and Area Footprint Versus Nuclear, Coal and Gas
The A to Z path of extracting, processing and transporting the energy and materials to construct, install and replace millions of short-lived wind turbines and solar panels to generate 50% of world generation would require a much larger “footprint”, than the A to Z path for equivalent generation by nuclear, coal and gas, which have lives of 60, 50, and 40 years, respectively, versus about 20 to 25 years for wind and about 25 years for solar.
http://energyskeptic.com/2018/wind/?fbclid=IwAR3u-kxMrxTGSDHNBS-_-E...
Wind, Solar, Hydro Energy Use by Country
This article shows graphs of the various sources of energy for various countries for 1965 - 2017.
CIS, the former USSR, is now the Commonwealth of Independent States, i.e., Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Russia, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan.
See table 5 and URL
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/12/21/another-look-at-the-fuel-mix/
Table 5 |
Other* |
Fossil |
|
% |
% |
China |
13.4 |
86.6 |
US |
16.8 |
83.2 |
Total Europe |
25.9 |
74.1 |
Total CIS |
13.0 |
87.0 |
Total Middle East |
0.8 |
99.2 |
India |
8.2 |
91.8 |
Germany |
20.9 |
79.1 |
France |
47.5 |
52.5 |
Norway |
68.5 |
31.5 |
Denmark |
27.0 |
73.0 |
* Other = Hydro, nuclear, wind, geothermal /biomass and solar
Area For Replacing US Gasoline With Ethanol, E100, From Corn
US Cropland
The US planted crops on about 334 million acres in 2017. It would be a miracle, if the US could increase its crop area by 50 million acres. See major crops in table and URLs.
http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/usda/current/Acre/Acre-06-29-2018.pdf
See Summary Table 3 of URL.
https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/major-land-uses.aspx
Table 6/US cropland, 2017 |
Million acre |
Corn |
89.1 |
Soybean |
89.6 |
Hay |
55.0 |
All wheat |
47.8 |
All cotton |
13.5 |
US Ethanol from Corn
During 2017, the US planted 89.1 million acre in corn, of which 32.214 million acre were for ethanol from corn.
Total ethanol production was 15.936 billion gallon. See table 8.
Click table 10.3, xls of eia URL.
https://www.agweb.com/article/usda-2017-corn-production-down-despit...
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=90&t=4
https://www.afdc.energy.gov/data/10339
Table 7/Corn |
2017 |
Planted, million acre |
89.1 |
Crop for all uses, billion bushel |
14.604 |
Crop for E100 for blending, billion bushel |
5.280 |
Yield, bushel/acre |
176.6 |
. |
|
Planted for ethanol, all uses, million acre |
32.214 |
Planted for E100 for blending, million acre |
29.913 |
Ethanol production, all uses, billion gallon |
15.936 |
Yield, gal/acre; 1000 x 15.936/32.214 |
495 |
E100 production, blending, billion gallon |
14.798 |
Replace US Petro-Gasoline With Ethanol from Corn
US “gasoline” consumption was 142.298 billion gallon in 2017, per EIA
E100 blended with petro-gasoline was 14.798 billion gallon
Petro-gasoline was 128.182 billion gallon
E100 was about 7.06% of the total Btu of “gasoline” consumption, based on LHV
Additional E100 would be 128.182 x 116090/76330 = 194.952 billion gal
Total E100 would be 14.798 + 194.952 = 209.750 billion gallon
Total cropland for E100 would be about 29.913 x 209.750/14.798 = 423.992 million acre to replace all US petro-gasoline with E100. See table 8
https://www.uaex.edu/publications/PDF/FSA-1050.pdf
https://www.statista.com/statistics/189410/us-gasoline-and-diesel-c...
NOTE: A fuel has a higher and lower heating value, Btu/gal. Some of the Btus are used during combustion to create water vapor, leaving only the lower heating value, LHV, Btus to perform useful work. Any replacement of
petro-gasoline would be by replacing its LHV Btus with ethanol having an equal LHV Btus.
https://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/fuel_comparison_chart.pdf
Table 8/2017 |
“Gasoline” |
|
Consumption, 1000 barrel/d |
9326.81 |
|
gal/barrel |
42 |
TBtu, LHV |
“Gasoline”, billion gal, per EIA |
142.980 |
16010.180 |
Petro-gasoline, billion gal |
128.182 |
14880.648 |
E100, billion gal |
14.798 |
1129.531 |
Planted for E100 for blending, million acres |
29.913 |
|
Additional E100 for blending, billion gal |
194.952 |
|
Total E100 for blending, billion gal |
209.750 |
|
Total acres in corn, million acres |
423.992 |
|
E100, as % of total Btu, LHV |
7.06 |
US Biodiesel (B100) From Soybean and Other Sources
The US planted about 89.6 million acres in soybeans in 2017.
The soybean crop, all uses, was 4.390 billion bushel, for a yield of about 4.39 x 1000/89.6 = 49 bushel/acre
B100 production required 6.230 billion pounds of soybean oil from 0.532 billion bushels in 2017, or 11.654 lb oil/bushel. See URL.
https://unitedsoybean.org/media-center/issue-briefs/biodiesel/
https://www.eia.gov/biofuels/biodiesel/production/
The soybean crop for B100 required about 0.532, B100/4.39, all uses x 89.6 = 10.857 million acres.
https://www.nass.usda.gov/Newsroom/2018/01_12_2018.php
B100 produced from soybean oil was 0.826 billion gallon in 2017
B100 from other sources was 0.770 billion gallon. See table 9
Click on the 10.4, xls, in the URL to see the values in table
https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/monthly/index.php#renewable
NOTE: Renewable diesel is made from used, petro-based grease and used, petro-based lubricating oils. It is not B100. Its CO2eq has to be counted.
Table 9 |
million gallon |
Tbtu, LHV |
B100 from soybeans |
826 |
98.748 |
B100 from other sources |
770 |
92.054 |
B100 total production |
1596 |
190.802 |
Imports |
301 |
35.985 |
Inventory |
88 |
10.520 |
B100, total consumption |
1985 |
237.307 |
Total US diesel fuel consumption was 45.833 billion gallon in 2017, which included 1985 billion gallon of B100. See table 10
https://www.statista.com/statistics/189410/us-gasoline-and-diesel-c...
Table 10 |
|
B100 from soybeans |
2017 |
Crop, bushel/acre/y |
49 |
Weight, lb/bushel |
60 |
Crop weight, lb/acre |
2940 |
Oil, lb/bushel; see URL |
11.654 |
Oil, lb/acre/y |
571 |
Process yield |
0.973 |
B100 yield , lb/acre/y |
556 |
Weight, lb/gal |
7.3 |
B100 yield, gal/acre/y |
76 |
B100 yield, gal/bu |
1.55 |
. |
|
Soybeans, billion bu; see URL |
0.532 |
Area, million acres |
10.857 |
Area For Replacing US Petro Diesel Fuel With B100 from Soybeans
Replace US Petro-Diesel with B100 from Soybeans
US “diesel” consumption was 45,833 billion gal in 2017, per EIA
B100 blended with petro-diesel was 1,985 billion gal from various sources. See table 6.
Petro-diesel was 43.848 billion gal
B100 was about 4.00% of the total Btu of “diesel” consumption, based on LHV
Additional B100 would be 43.848 x 129488/119550 = 47,493 billion gal, based on LHV.
Total B100 would be 1.985, existing + 47.493, new = 49.478 billion gal
Total cropland for B100 would be about 49.478 billion gal/76 gal/acre = 651 million acres, if no imports. See table 9
https://www.statista.com/statistics/189410/us-gasoline-and-diesel-c...
Table 9/2017 |
"Diesel" |
Petro-diesel in blend |
Petro-diesel |
Consumption, 1000 barrel/d |
2989.78 |
||
Consumption, 1000 barrel/y |
1091270 |
||
gal/barrel |
42 |
||
Consumption, billion gallon/y |
45.833 |
1.985 |
43.848 |
Tbtu, LHV |
5934.866 |
237.307 |
5697.559 |
B100 in blend, % of Btus |
4.00 |
||
Additional B100 to replace diesel, b gallon |
47.493 |
||
Total B100, billion gallon |
49.478 |
||
Yield, gal/acre |
76 |
||
Total acres, million |
651 |
||
. |
|||
HHV, Btu/gal |
138490 |
127960 |
|
LHV, Btu/gal |
129488 |
119550 |
Additional Sources of Information:
https://ethanolrfa.org/resources/industry/statistics/#1537811482060...
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_cons_psup_a_EPM0F_VPP_mbbl_a.htm
https://www.agmrc.org/renewable-energy/renewable-energy-climate-cha...
https://ethanolrfa.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2017-U.S.-Ethanol...
APPENDIX 1
Increased Renewables per Capita Leads to Higher Household Electric Rates
The below graph shows countries with high levels of wind, solar, etc., also have high levels of household electric rates.
Politicians and bureaucrats find ways to place the cost burden of renewables (such as subsidies, grants, taxes, fees and surcharges) mostly on households, but give a free pass to the industrial and commercial sectors for "competitive reasons"
Industry and commerce are vastly better organized and have vastly more political clout, and are much less easily swayed/bamboozled/conned than households.
APPENDIX 2
"Fossil fuels are essential for making wind turbines, as Robert Wilson explains in Can You Make a Wind Turbine Without Fossil Fuels?"
"Oil is used from start to finish; from mining to crushing ore and smelting it; to delivery to the supply chain fabrication plants for the 8,000 parts in a turbine; to the final delivery to the site and erection.
Cement trucks drive to the delivery site over roads built by diesel powered road equipment.
The roads are paved with asphalt made from refinery tar.
Fossil-made cement and steel rebar is required for the wind turbine foundations.
Diesel trucks haul the components of the turbine to the installation place, and diesel cranes lift the turbine sections and 8,000 parts upward.
There are no electric blast furnaces, only fossil fueled ones to make cement and most steel.
There are no electric mining trucks, electric long haul trucks to deliver the 8,000 parts made all over the world, nor electric cement trucks, electric cranes, etc.
That means, even if a wind turbine could generate enough energy to replicate itself, it wouldn’t matter, the A-to-Z process would need to be electrified."
"Not only would windmills have to generate enough power to reproduce themselves, but they have to make enough power above and beyond that to fuel the rest of civilization.
Think of the energy to make the cement and steel of a 300-foot tower with three 150-foot rotor blades sweeping an acre of air at 150 miles per hour.
The turbine housing alone weighs over 56 tons, the blade assembly 36 tons, and the whole tower assembly over 163 tons.
Florida Power & Light says a typical turbine site is a 42 by 42 foot area with a 30-foot hole filled with tons of steel rebar-reinforced concrete; about 1,250 tons of foundation to hold the 300-foot tower in place (per Rosenbloom)."
APPENDIX 3
High Levels of Wind and Solar
High levels of wind and solar, say 60% of NE grid annual load (the rest supplied by other sources), could not ever stand on their own, without the NE grid having:
- Much more robust connections to nearby grids (Canada, New York State), plus
- Gas turbine plants and reservoir/run-of-river hydro plants that could quickly vary their outputs to compensate for the quickly varying outputs of wind and solar, including very lowoutputs of wind and solar, which occur at random, at least 30% of the hours of the year, according to minute-by-minute generation data posted by ISO-NE.
If high levels of wind and solar were built out after a few decades, and the gas turbine, nuclear, coal and oil plants were closed down (according to RE proponent wishes), and with existing connections to nearby grids, and with existing reservoir/run-of-river hydro plants, and with existing other sources, the NE grid would require 6 - 8 TWh of storage to cover 5 to 7 day wind/solar lulls, which occur at random, and to cover seasonal variations (storing wind when it is more plentiful during fall, winter and spring, and when solar is more plentiful in summer, so more of their electricity would be available in summer when wind usually is at very low levels). See URLs.
That storage would need to have a minimal level at all times (about 10 days of demand coverage), to cover multi-day, scheduled and unscheduled equipment and system outages and unusual multi-day weather events, such as a big snow fall covering the solar panels andminimal wind.
- One TWh of storage costs about $400 billion, at $400/kWh, or $100 billion at a Holy Grail $100/kWh.
- Any electricity passing through storage has about a 20% loss, on a high voltage AC-to-high voltage AC basis, to be made up by additional wind, solar and other generation.
- Any electricity fed to EVs and plug-in hybrids has about a 20% charging and resting loss, from wall meter to “in battery”, as indicated by the vehicle meter, to be made up by additional wind, solar, and other generation. See URLs.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/tesla-model-3-long-term...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/daily-shifting-of-wind-...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/new-england-will-need-t...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/vermont-example-of-elec...;
APPENDIX 4
Wind and Solar Conditions in New England: New England has highly variable weather and low-medium quality wind and solar conditions. See NREL wind map and NREL solar map.
https://www.nrel.gov/gis/images/100m_wind/awstwspd100onoff3-1.jpg
https://www.nrel.gov/gis/images/solar/national_photovoltaic_2009-01...
Wind:
- Wind electricity is zero about 30% of the hours of the year (it takes a wind speed of about 7 mph to start the rotors)
- Wind is minimal most early mornings and most late afternoons/early evenings (peak demand hours), especially during summer
- Wind often is minimal 5 - 7 days in a row in summer and winter, as proven by ISO-NE real-time generation data.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/daily-shifting-of-wind-...
- About 60% is generated at night, when demand is much less than during the late afternoons/early evenings
- About 60% is generated in winter.
- During winter, the best wind month is up to 2.5 times the worst summer month
- New England has the lowest capacity factor (about 0.262) of any US region, except the US South. See URL.
https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=20112
Solar:
- Solar electricity is strictly a midday affair.
- It is zero about 65% of the hours of the year, mostly at night.
- It often is minimal 5 - 7 days in a row in summer and in winter, as proven by ISO-NE real-time generation data.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/daily-shifting-of-wind-...
- It is minimal early mornings and late afternoons/early evenings
- It is minimal much of the winter months
- It is minimal for several days with snow and ice on most of the panels.
- It varies with variable cloudiness, which would excessively disturb distribution grids with many solar systems, as happens in southern California and southern Germany on a daily basis. Utilities use batteries to stabilize their grids.
- During summer, the best solar month is up to 4 times the worst winter month; that ratio is 6 in Germany.
- New England has the lowest capacity factor (about 0.145, under ideal conditions) of any region in the US, except some parts of the US Northwest.
NOTE: Even if the NE grid had large capacity connections with Canada and New York, any major NE wind lull and any major NE snowfall likely would affect the entire US northeast, i.e., relying on neighboring grids to "help-out" likely would not be prudent strategy.
Wind Plus Solar:
ISO-NE publishes the minute-by-minute outputs off various energy sources contributing their electricity to the grid.
All one has to do is add the wind and solar and one comes rapidly to the conclusion both are minimal many hours of the year, at any time during the year.
- Wind plus solar production could be minimal for 5 - 7 days in summer and in winter, especially with snow and ice on most of the panels, as frequently happens during December, January and February, as proven by ISO-NE real-time generation data.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/daily-shifting-of-wind-...
If we were to rely on wind and solar for most of our electricity, massive energy storage systems (a few hundred GWh-scale for Vermont, multiple TWh-scale for NE) would be required to cover multi-day wind lulls, multi-day overcast/snowy periods, and seasonal variations. See URLs.
Wind and solar cannot ever be expected to charge New England’s EVs, so people can get to work the next day, unless backed up by several TWh of storage, because wind/solar lulls can occur for 5 - 7 days in a row, in summer and in winter. BTW, the turnkey capital cost of one TWH of storage (delivered as AC to the grid) is about $400 billion.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/wind-and-solar-energy-l...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/vermont-example-of-elec...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/seasonal-pumped-hydro-s...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/electricity-storage-to-...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/pumped-storage-hydro-in...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/wind-and-solar-hype-ver...
APPENDIX 5
Hydro-Quebec Electricity Generation and Purchases: Google this URL for the 2017 facts. The H-Q electricity supply is an order of magnitude cleaner than the Vermont supply.
http://www.hydroquebec.com/sustainable-development/energy-environme...
2017 |
|
GWh |
|
Hydropower generated |
177091 |
Purchased |
44006 |
- Hydro |
31610 |
- Wind |
9634 |
- Biomass and waste reclamation |
2021 |
- Other |
741 |
Total RE generated and purchased |
221097 |
NOTE: Gentilly-2 nuclear generating station, plus three thermal generating stations (Tracy, La Citière and Cadillac) were shut down.
Hydro-Quebec Export Electricity: H-Q net exports were 34.4 TWh/y in 2017; provided 27% of H-Q net income, or $780 million, i.e., very profitable.
H-Q export revenue was $1,651 million in 2017, or 1641/34.4 = 4.8 c/kWh.
See page 24 of Annual Report URL.
This is for a mix of old and new contracts.
Revenue = 1641
Net profit = 780
Cost = 1641 - 780 = 861
Average cost of H-Q generation = 861/34.4 = 2.5 c/kWh
GMP buys H-Q electricity, at the Vermont border, for 5.549 c/kWh, under a recent contract. GMP buys at 5.549 c/kWh, per GMP spreadsheet titled “GMP Test Year Power Supply Costs filed as VPSB Docket No: Attachment D, Schedule 2, April 14, 2017”.
H-Q is eager to sell more of its surplus electricity to New England and New York.
That is at least 50% less than ridgeline wind and large-scale field-mounted solar, which are heavily subsidized to make their electricity appear to be less costly than reality.
GMP sells to me at 19 c/kWh, per rate schedule. Consumers pricing for electricity is highly political. That is implemented by rate setting, taxes, fees, surcharges, etc., mostly on household electric bills, as in Denmark and Germany, etc. The rate setting is influenced by protecting “RE policy objectives”, which include highly subsidized, expensive microgrids, islanding, batteries and net metered solar and heat pumps.
http://www.hydroquebec.com/sustainable-development/energy-environme...
http://news.hydroquebec.com/en/press-releases/1338/annual-report-2917/
http://www.hydroquebec.com/data/documents-donnees/pdf/annual-report...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/green-mountain-power-co...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/increased-canadian-hydr...
APPENDIX 6
Higher and Lower Heating Values of Fuels
The higher heating value, HHV, is the heat content in a fuel, such as Btu/lb
The lower heating value, LHV, is the heat content in a fuel available to an internal combustion engine.
Any replacement of petro-diesel fuel and petro-gasoline would be by replacing their total Btus, based on LHVs, with biofuels having an equal total Btus, based on LHVs.
- E10, usually called gasoline, also called gasohol, is a blend of 90% gasoline and 10% ethanol, E100, from corn.
- B100 is 100% biodiesel
- B20 is a blend of 80% petro-diesel and 20% B100
See table 3 and URL.
https://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/fuel_comparison_chart.pdf
https://h2tools.org/hyarc/calculator-tools/lower-and-higher-heating...
Table |
Ethanol |
Gasoline |
E10 (90/10) |
Petro-diesel, LS |
B100 |
B20 (80/20) |
NG |
LNG |
HHV, Btu/gal |
84530 |
124340 |
120359 |
138490 |
127960 |
136384 |
22453 |
23735 |
LHV, Btu/gal |
76330 |
116090 |
112114 |
129488 |
119550 |
127500 |
20267 |
20908 |
Comment
Hi Dan,
Addition:
Often overlooked is the A to Z path is paved with fossil fuels residue.
Asphalt is made from refinery tar.
I will add you comment as an Appendix.
FROM :
"Fossil fuels are essential for making wind turbines, as Robert Wilson explains in Can You Make a Wind Turbine Without Fossil Fuels?"
"Oil is used from start to finish — from mining to crushing ore and smelting it, to delivery to the fabrication plant to the supply chains for 8,000 parts in a turbine to the final delivery site. Cement trucks drive to the delivery site over roads built by diesel powered road equipment, fossil made cement and steel rebar to pour the foundations wind turbines sit on, diesel trucks haul the components of the turbine to the installation place, and diesel cranes lift the turbine sections and 8,000 parts upward. There are no electric blast furnaces, only fossil fueled ones to make cement and most steel, nor are there electric mining trucks, electric long haul trucks to deliver the 8,000 parts made all over the world, electric cement trucks, electric cranes, and so on. That means even if a wind turbine could generate enough energy to replicate itself, it wouldn’t matter, the process from start to finish needs to be electrified."
"Not only would windmills have to generate enough power to reproduce themselves, but they have to make enough power above and beyond that to fuel the rest of civilization. Think of the energy to make the cement and steel of a 300 foot tower with three 150 foot rotor blades sweeping an acre of air at 100 miles per hour. The turbine housing alone weighs over 56 tons, the blade assembly 36 tons, and the whole tower assembly is over 163 tons. Florida Power & Light says a typical turbine site is 42 by 42 foot area with a 30 foot hole filled with tons of steel rebar-reinforced concrete –about 1,250 tons to hold the 300 foot tower in place (Rosenbloom)."
U.S. Sen Angus King
Maine as Third World Country:
CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power
Click here to read how the Maine ratepayer has been sold down the river by the Angus King cabal.
Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT
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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/
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"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."
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