PPH - State regulators asked for opinions on proposal to expand electric vehicle sales. They got 1,700 comments.

Yesterday, 2/5/24, at the very same link where the following article now resides, the Press Herald ran the following headline: "In comments to state regulators, opposition to Maine electric vehicle rule outpaces support 4-1" The article which is now at the same link makes no mention of the 4 to 1 opposition against this asinine mandate. Yesterday's headline, seemingly hastily retracted, spoke to the people's ire. The headline below gives zero indication of the public's disgust. Why this happened - I have no idea.

The Board of Environmental Protection will consider the proposal next month after postponing its meeting in December.

Yesterday at 5:34 PM
8:25 PM

Stephen Singer


Maine environmental officials have received more than 1,700 comments from the public – just since December – about a state proposal to limit the sale of new gas-powered cars and expand sales of electric vehicles.

The comments will be posted online in the next week or two after they are reviewed for content and sorted for relevance, Jeff Crawford, director of the Bureau of Air Quality at the Department of Environmental Protection, said in an email.

The department had previously posted hundreds of comments – most opposed to the rule change – that were submitted last year before a Dec. 21 meeting of the Board of Environmental Protection was rescheduled following a destructive storm.

Because of that delay, the effective date of the proposed vehicle rules was pushed back one year, from 2027 to the 2028 vehicle model year, a move that drew criticism from environmentalists who say climate change demands quick action....................


The more recent comments focused on the revised proposal, Crawford said.
The seven-member BEP will consider the plan March 20 at the Augusta Civic Center. The “Advanced Clean Cars II” plan would require zero-emission vehicles to make up 43% of new car sales for 2028 models and 82% of new sales by model year 2032. Those include electric and fuel-cell vehicles, along with a partial credit for plug-in hybrids.
Advocates say gradually eliminating gas-powered cars – a major source of air pollution – is essential if Maine is to reach its zero-carbon goals. The policy has won acceptance in a dozen states, but has met resistance in Connecticut.

The full article can be read at


Note that this is the identical link which on Monday, 2/5/24, ever so briefly, carried the headline:

In comments to state regulators, opposition to Maine electric vehic...


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Comment by Long Islander on February 10, 2024 at 1:21pm

Thank you Gary.

From the Press Herald on 2/5/24 via the Wayback Machine (before it disappeared and was later replaced by a far more neutral headline which made no mention of the 4:1 trouncing of the proposed EV mandate.)

Comment by Gary Campbell on February 10, 2024 at 12:16pm

You might be able to view the original article on "The Way Back Machine" at

https://web.archive.org and search for pressherald.com

They have archived snapshots of that site taken throughout the day.

When PPDLW was fighting First Wind's Bowers Mtn project we used the Wayback machoine to show how a local resort/outfitter modified their website in order to support the project. Fortunately we were able to show LURC, DEP and BEP some screenshots of what they had on their website before Fir$t Wind got to them.

Comment by Willem Post on February 7, 2024 at 5:48pm

Two very expensive New Jersey Offshore wind projects, mostly supplied by European companies.
The turbines will be made in Europe, shipped by specialized European ships, elected by Europeans. 
New Jersey folks will be soooo lucky to get to do some of the maintenance, with mostly European replacement parts.
One project for 2400 MW to be completed in 2031/2032, FIRST YEAR cost $112.50/MWh, escalating at ?% for 20 years
The second project at 1342 MW, no completion date, FIRST YEAR cost $131.00/MWh, escalating at ?% for 20 years
The escalations are the NJ economy killers, which nitwit Murphy and co-conspirators are perpetrating 
If anyone has escalation %, please let me know


Here are some prices with no escalation
New York State had signed contracts with EU big wind companies for four offshore wind projects
Sometime later, the companies were trying to coerce an additional $25.35 billion (per Wind Watch) from New York ratepayers and taxpayers over at least 20 years, because they had bid at lower prices than they should have.
New York State denied the request on October 12, 2023; “a deal is a deal”, said the Commissioner 

Owners want a return on investment of at least 10%/y, if bank loans for risky projects are 6.5%/y, and project cost inflation and uncertainties are high 
The about 3.5% is a minimum for all the years of hassles of designing, building, erecting, and paperwork of a project
The project prices, with no subsidies, would be about two times the agreed contract price, paid by Utilities to owners.
The reduction is due to US subsidies provided, per various US laws
All contractors had bid too low. When they realized there would be huge losses, they asked for higher contract prices.
It looks like the contract prices will need to be at least $150/MWh, for contractors to make money. Those contract prices would be at least 60% higher than in 2021
Oersted, Denmark, Sunrise wind, contract price $110.37/MWh, contractor needs $139.99/MWh, a 27% increase
Equinor, Norway, Empire 1 wind, contract price $118.38/MWh, contractor needs $159.64/MWh, a 35% increase
Equinor, Norway, Empire 2 wind, contract price $107.50/MWh, contractor needs $177.84/MWh, a 66% increase
Equinor, Norway, Beacon Wind, contract price $118.00/MWh, contractor needs $190.82/MWh, a 62% increase
NOTE: Empire Wind 2, 1260 MW, near Long- Island, was cancelled.
NOTE: The above prices compare with the average New England wholesale price of about 5 c/kWh, during the 2009 – 2022 period, 13 years, courtesy of:
Gas-fueled CCGT plants, with low-cost, low-CO2, very-low particulate/kWh
Nuclear plants, with low-cost, near-zero CO2, zero particulate/kWh
Hydro plants, with low-cost, near-zero-CO2, zero particulate/kWh

Comment by Willem Post on February 7, 2024 at 3:09pm

A sample of censored comments in favor of EVs will be posted by the bought and paid for board

Time for farmers to get out the tractors and block the bastards until sanity returns

Comment by Frank Haggerty on February 7, 2024 at 8:31am

Electric vehicles rated to go 250 miles only go around 180 miles in cold weather. The 220-volt Level 2 EV car charger in a house takes up to 8 hours to recharge the car. The 440-volt commercial Level 3 EV car charger takes 1 to 2 hours but is hard to find.     So I get in my car and drive 150 miles. Now I have to spend 8 hours charging my car to get home or drive around to find a level 3 charger to get home?  You can't do this in a rural community...

Comment by Dan McKay on February 7, 2024 at 8:18am

In the meantime:

SOLAR: In Maine, developers say the time it’s taking to review proposed solar projects is threatening their ability to receive ratepayer subsidies. (Portland Press Herald)

Comment by Willem Post on February 7, 2024 at 7:54am

The US added $2.65 TRILLION to the national debt, due to trade deficits, federal budget deficits and $875 BILLION interest on the national debt

Comment by Willem Post on February 7, 2024 at 7:50am

The only solution is to vote Trump in by a landslide

He would quickly end all those wind, solar, EV, Heat pump, and CLOSE THE BORDER AND FINISH THE WALL, etc subsidies, so theBiden chaos and idiocy will finally be ended, and people will be less upset, and can focus on making America great again

Comment by Penny Gray on February 7, 2024 at 7:40am

One can only hope the actual comments will be posted and not censored.

Comment by Frank Haggerty on February 7, 2024 at 7:27am

Ford Lost $4.7B On EVs Last Year, Or About $64,731 For Every EV It ...

Electrifyingly bad news in Dearborn

How bad is the EV business? Yesterday afternoon, Ford Motor Company reported that the operating loss it incurred on its EV business in 2023 exceeded its total profit for the year.

That shocking fact comes directly from the company’s earnings report, which carried the headline, “Ford+ Delivers Solid 2023...” The Dearborn-based auto giant had an operating loss (also known as EBIT, or earnings before interest and taxes) of $4.7 billion on its EV business last year.


Maine as Third World Country:

CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power


Click here to read how the Maine ratepayer has been sold down the river by the Angus King cabal.

Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT


(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/

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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."


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