Manchester, UK, has a fantasy to use the world’s largest battery to tackle variable wind and solar output
Manchester, UK, has a fantasy to use the world’s largest battery to tackle variable wind and solar output
By Paul Homewood
Blueprints for the world’s largest battery on the site of an old coal-fired power station in Manchester, storing enough energy for 36,000 homes for a week, have won approval from planning officials.
Carlton Power, an independent energy company, will need to raise £750m (about $1.0 BILLION) for the plant and is “advanced talks” to raise the funds, it said. It will then need to pick a supplier.
Battery plants are seen as a way to counteract the ups and downs of wind and solar output, on a less than minute-by-minute basis, 24/7/365, year after year. Those plants last at most 15 years. They have a round trip loss of about 20%, which gets worse with aging of about 0.5 to 1.0 % per year, as proven by Hornsdale Power Reserve. See URL
THE HORNSDALE POWER RESERVE; LARGEST BATTERY SYSTEM IN AUSTRALIA
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-hornsdale-power-res...
Batteries charge expensive wind and solar electricity in excess of demand, and discharge about 80% of that electricity during the peak hours of late afternoon/early evening.
The Manchester plant will be able to deliver 2,080 MW, as AC for an hour.
But that would draw down the battery to zero charge, which is an absolute no-no.
NOTE: On a normal, daily basis, Tesla recommends its Megapacks not be charged to over 80%, and not be discharged to less than 20%, to ensure a 15-year life.
That means only 60% of the battery system capacity is used.
Exceeding these limits will increase the rate of aging, the same as with an EV.
Planning permission was granted by three-blind-mice Trafford Council.
Carlton has also won approval for a green hydrogen project in the area.
Councillor Tom Ross, the leader of Trafford Council, said: “The Trafford battery energy storage scheme, alongside the Trafford Green Hydrogen scheme, places Trafford and Greater Manchester at the forefront of the UK’s energy transition.
The two schemes will help address our climate crisis – one of Trafford Council’s corporate priorities – and will support our region’s plan to reach a target of net zero carbon emissions by 2038.”
It will be built at the Trafford Low Carbon Energy Park in Greater Manchester, which will also host the world’s first commercial liquid air storage system, being built by Highview Power, another energy storage firm, using its cryo-battery technology.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/07/24/manchester-plans-worlds-largest-battery-wind-energy/
The reporter clearly does not understand just how puny this storage will be in terms of our overall energy mix.
On a normal, daily basis, the 2080 MWh battery system will take about 1560 MWh from the high voltage grid, and deliver about 0.6 x 2080 = 1248 MWh to the high voltage grid, for a 20% loss.
That loss is confirmed by the HORNSDALE battery system in Australia. See Appendix
But, by 2035, the AVERAGE daily electricity consumption would be at least 350 TWh/365 = 0.959 TWh/d, almost 100,000 MWh/d.
Manchester would need many weeks of storage to cover for low winds and low solar in UK winters
What the storage plant may do is make a profit by buying power at lower prices during time of surplus, and selling it at higher prices when supplies are tight, because of the intermittency and near-absence of wind and solar power during multi-day wind/solar lulls.
And guess who will end up paying for those profits?
THE ALREADY-SCREWED/STRUGGLING UK HOUSEHOLDS, JUST AS IN NEW ENGLAND
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Comment by Willem Post on July 28, 2023 at 11:10am
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US/UK 56,000 MW OF OFFSHORE WIND BY 2030; AN EXPENSIVE FANTASY
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/biden-30-000-mw-of-off...EXCERPT
The US government, not the US people, has the insane fantasy of wanting to build 30,000 MW of offshore by 2030, i.e., just 7 years, but several companies, building projects for Massachusetts, will be allowed to walk away from the signed PPAs, and rebid at much higher prices next year.
The UK government, not the UK people, has the insane fantasy of wanting to build 26,000 MW of offshore by 2030, i.e., in just 7 years, but Vattenfall, a Swedish company, is putting 4,200 MW on hold, because Vattenfall spreadsheets show a “net revenue shortage” of about 40%, meaning the prices, c/kWh, offered by the UK auctions are about 40% too low.
BTW, about 7,000 MW offshore was accepted after the 4th Auction bids in 2022.
The continent-based European big wind companies have only one third of the capacity per year for building 56,000 MW offshore in seven years, or 8,000 MW/y.
These companies will concentrate on the U.S. market, because the Biden “Inflation-Reduction-Act” subsidies are at least 50% higher than in the UK
NOTE: The EU, the UK and the Fed central banks just increased interest rates, which will make everything more expensive.
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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT
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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/
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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law
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"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."
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