Maine Sierra Club Boasts of Defeating LD 616 and 1323

After all, who cares about citizen's rights -- who the heck do these citizens think they are anyway?

See their communication here:

http://action.sierraclub.org/site/MessageViewer?dlv_id=320182&e...

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Comment by Sherwin Start on April 11, 2014 at 10:41am

Lets Face it The State Legislature along with a Few Other Organizations LIKE  NRC-Maine,Sierra Club, and the NAtional Audubon Society-Maine amoung others have been "INFLUENCED" by the Wind Power Development consortium to Not Only Turn their Backs on the People of the UO Territory of Maine But to act as LOBBYists for the First Wind and ALL Of other So-Called ALTERNATIVE energy Supply/Development Industry!! This Friends is u BUY Friends and peddle influence in the Halls od the Maine State Legislature!The UT of Maine are Considered "THE SOFT UNDERBELLY" of the Animal called CITIZENS CONSTITUTIONAL Rights of MAINE!! The UT is Now Offically Declared by the STATE Legislature to  be open for EXPLOITATION  business-WATCH the the Rush Now to the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of the Mountains,Lakes,Streams and the GRANDEUR of the UT of Maine-once heralded as one of the most beautifull places in the WORLD!!

Comment by Mike DiCenso on April 7, 2014 at 8:42pm

I feel bad for Larry Dunphy for having to deal with the pro wind crazies on the EUT. They are willing to discriminate against the citizens of the UTs just to kiss the windsprawlers butts.

Comment by Mike DiCenso on April 7, 2014 at 8:37pm

Kathy Sherman......DITTO !!!!

Comment by Rick Conrad on April 7, 2014 at 7:44pm

    He invited you to his pub gathering.   Why not go and tell him what you think of his defeating your antiwind bills???

Glen Brand
Sierra Club Maine Chapter Director

P.S. Join us at our monthly pub gathering at 6:00 pm on Thursday, A...

Comment by Kathy Sherman on April 6, 2014 at 4:02pm
What I am incredulous about is not just schizophenia about wind turbines on northern New England mountains and hills vs. coal mining or coal generation. It is schizophenia about acoustic impacts. Sierra put out a 'guidelines' or such, that indicated that immissions of IWT should be no more than just about ambient. In one of the endless hearings that MA DEP has held about either siting or the so-called 'Health Impact' /18th review, Sierra (probably Mass club) attested that dBC should be used. And I swear that in the last few days, my eyes ran through various snippets about the harms of noise pollution to wildlife from SIERRA.

I guess the question is becoming who should be taking more credit? RENEW - Maine, Audubon, Nat Conservency who I am particularly mad at as the lead agency of a constortium promising to see that the #2 most endangered mammal globally, and #1 most endangered along the Atlantic coast, would be protected from near- and offshore wind energy facilities. The permits just issued by NFWS suggests that they did a miserable job. Raptors including our national symbol are important victims, but it is also the resurgent osprey population that is more so, I believe, because they do not avoid turbines, especially the juveniles flying after their parents have left. On the list is Union of Concerned Scientists who promoted deregulation in the late 90s to get rid of nuclear generation and replace in with wind energy in New England, and Conservation Law Foundation and its consulting branch who wrote a model by-law for Massachusetts enshrining a supposed 'industry (best) practice' of 1.5 times height as adequate setback. I may have written before that that 1.5x is better than what my town chose (1.1x) or other towns that interpret height as tower height, rather than total. Where are these people getting these things, and why are people so gullible? CLF would also order what happens to my pee, but could care less about what really is taken out of urban pee or where the treated stuff goes. (case in point, NH had a major rupture of their treatment plant, and I have found the discs from that rupture on beaches on all sides of Cape Cod. The sewage treatment outfall off the south coast of Massachusetts that cleaned up Boston Harbor could be another example, but not visible). I am tired of them all, and as some have said on this site, Democrats and arm-chair wealthy environmentalists are being self-defeating to not recognize that we really, quite simply do not have the resource in Maine or any other New England state.
They are also being stupid to not recognize the 'extractive' technology involved for rare earth mining/refining, copper, cement, transmission towers.
Going/Growing mad and madder.
Comment by James M. Talcott on April 6, 2014 at 1:28pm
Very confused people. Don't mine but go ahead and denude the mountaintops and allow runoff into the lakes and streams, but do go ahead and protect the lakes and blah blah blah--but how? Liberal idiots, all talk but no thought except to spend, spend, spend.
Comment by Penny Gray on April 6, 2014 at 12:26pm

This just baffles me.  I don't understand how they could turn against Maine citizens that way.  Any law that removes the rights of the people to sefl-govern is a bad law and should not be supported.

 

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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT

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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/

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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."

https://pinetreewatch.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/

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