Denmark’s Anti-Wind Problem: Wind News Update Lisa Linowes

Everyone always hears the windies speaking highly of the way Denmark is making all their energy with wind power. Well, that's not entirely true, and it looks like the bloom is off the Rose. Seems they only produce 38% of their energy from wind and that dropped because they decommissioned more turbines than they built. They have a land mass a little bigger than the state of Maryland and wind turbines, covering a great deal of the land and the waters surrounding it only produce 5.2 GW of power. They are starting to get resistance from the citizens over the high rates and land destruction.

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Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on August 9, 2017 at 9:58pm

Electricity exports from Denmark[edit]

Annual wind power production is currently (2014) equal to about 39% of electricity consumed in Denmark.[2][3] The proportion of this that is actually consumed in Denmark has been disputed, as the considerable hydropower resources of Norway (and to some extent, Sweden) is used as grid storage with low loss. Hydropower can rapidly reduce generation whenever wind farms are generating power, saving water for later, and can export electricity to Denmark when wind power output drops. Short term, Denmark imports electricity from Norway during daytime and exports in nighttime. Long term, Denmark imports electricity in summer and exports in winter. Wind is higher in autumn and winter, when consumption is also high.[66] This service of timeshifting production and consumption is also found around the world in pumped-storage hydroelectricitybalancing coal and nuclear plants.

For timeshifting trade with Norway, Denmark exports at DKK 157/MWh and imports at DKK 212/MWh.[32] The correlation is low between wind power in Norway and Denmark.[66] Market price sometimes falls to near or below zero, particularly in high winds and low consumption.[67] In 2014, there were 46 hours with negative prices, costing DKK 37.7 million.[68] In 2015, negative prices occurred in 65 hours in West Denmark and 36 hours in East Denmark - less than 1% of the time. Danish prices are mainly negative when German prices are even more negative. The whole date of September 2 (2015) was the first time that no central power plants were running in West Denmark, and grid stability was maintained by compensators.[2]

Denmark is generally a transit country for electricity trade between the much larger markets in Norway, Sweden and Germany,[69][70] and plans to add cables to the Netherlands (COBRAcable) and England (Viking Link) as well, further increasing the function of being a crossroads for electricity.

Claims of up to 40% of wind power being exported have been made,[71][72] countered by claims that only 1% was exported.[73]

According to the first argument, power in excess of immediate demand is exported to neighbouring countries at lower prices. Part of the benefit of this goes to Denmark's northern neighbours: when Denmark exports power, it is sold at the spot market price which must be lower than at the importing market in order to be transmitted.

According to the second argument, the correlation between exports and wind power is weak, and a similar correlation exists with conventional thermal plants running partly for district heating; meanwhile, causal analysis shows that export from Denmark typically occurs as a consequence of the merit order effect, when large thermal plants have reserve capacities at times the spot market price of electricity is high.

In any case, the export price is the intermediate between the prices of the two areas, so the exporting TSO (Energinet) uses the profit to relieve tariffs[74] at around DKK 500 million per year.[75] Wind power organizations state that Denmark exports power at a higher price than it imports at.[76]

Comment by Jim Lutz on August 9, 2017 at 6:58pm

Thank You Marie Jane;

I  hope to have a Letter to the Editor in the BDN in the next couple of days with the same views. They called and said they would publish it. Should get a lot of static from the windies.

Comment by Marie Jane on August 9, 2017 at 6:39pm

THANK YOU!  ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:  This is a post of great beauty:  Denmark’s Anti-Wind Problem: Wind News Update Lisa Linowes.

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  1. Jim Lutz Johns Hopkins University   •   August 9, 2017 at 4:50 pm

    Seems like the bloom is falling off the Rose in Denmark too.
    Massachusetts is trying to get the State of Maine to host enough wind turbines and power lines to make sure they can meet the ridiculous goals they have set for renewables. They have stopped their installation of new turbines except for pushing them offshore. They have closed down the turbines in Falmouth after proving the Vestas machines were producing DOUBLE the sound they were rated at. Mass has shut down our request for a new natural Gas line from the MidAtlantic and MidWest. But they want to use Maine as a generator.
    I think you all know where they can put that request.


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