The American Wind Energy Association is holding its annual propaganda event in Portland and, as usual the scare tactics abound - supported of course by Angus King.  We are all aware that temperatures have risen 1.2 degrees (c) in the last 150 years - And the Atlantic Ocean has risen 8 inches.  But the truth is no one really knows why!  The permafrost is melting beneath the Arctic ice layer and the Pacific Ocean is shrinking with the shifting of tectonic plates beneath it. So why can't we just acknowledge that the real cause of climate change needs to be studied further - And we need a real plan of action - Wind energy is not the answer!  If carbon emissions are the issue - lets acknowledge the real facts.  In Maine over 50% of emissions come from automobiles and 65% of global emissions come from developing nations! I am tired of being lied to so someone can pad their wallet-especially at the expense of Maine's environment!

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Comment by Paula D Kelso on September 3, 2016 at 3:42pm

Don't know about the real data, but my personal observation of tourism along the Brewer to Bar Harbor corridor, is that it was a booming summer. At least according to the amount of traffic and numbers of shoppers the last two months. My personal one day observation of traffic on Route 2 from Bangor to Bethel was light. Maybe the tourists are waiting for the leaves to turn to go inland. As to wildlife, somethings up here. Doe and 3 fawns playing in our field next to the Route 9 truck traffic. Expecting squealing brakes and thuds some early morn. We haven't had deer here for years. Guess they are looking for new territory since Pisgah wind turbines will infringe on their deer wintering area. But, oh yeah, I forgot turbines don't effect deer and their wintering areas.

Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on September 3, 2016 at 2:45pm

Very good Paula, but I wonder if his disbelief in Mathematics stems from the manipulation of the facts of reality. (twisted truths to suit the current needs) 

Though I wandered off topic , (again) you again bring to the forefront some appropriate noteworthy comments of factual truths.

I wonder how Maine's summer tourism made out, the traffic count was about half its normal amount in this area......... guess the Bingham turbines were not an attraction of the year. But then the wildlife sightings were also down. 

Comment by Paula D Kelso on September 3, 2016 at 2:37pm

Whoops, didn't get all the quote:

"As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality."

Comment by Paula D Kelso on September 3, 2016 at 2:30pm

The article posted by Ed Anderson is good and sobering.

How we got from discussing Angus King to quoting Albert Einstein I don't know. But here are some of my favorite Einstein quotes:

"God does not play dice with the universe."

"It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity."

"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."

"Perfection of means and confusion of ends seem to characterize our age."

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

"The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them."

And from his last written words:

"Political passions, once they have been fanned into flame, exact their victims ..."

As a footnote; my history of mathematics professor, Dr. Eves, showed us one of Einstein's hats which the professor had acquired as a grad student at Princeton at the time Einstein was there.  But now I see that Einstein also said, "I don't believe in mathematics."  So I guess I wasted a lot of years of study.

Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on September 3, 2016 at 11:03am

There is no denial about climate change as all carbon based life and carbon sinks such as trees and plants release carbon to the atmosphere, though more gradually.

The natural release of carbon is not the issue, but what is the issue is its forced rapid release which requires oxygen. Resulting in CO² as one of the many and most predominant byproducts as the energy of Hydrogen is released. 

This combined with additional sources of Carbon such as petroleum or Coal aka Ancient stored excess Carbons from the early earth's existence as our Iron core was super heated producing those carbons which add to our current self sustaining levels creates the excesses of today. This was a natural sequestering of what was in excess that provided the eventual dawn of life as we know it. 

Carbon is the natural stabilizer of Hydrogen. Hydrogen is energy in its purest form and Carbon prevents a catastrophic burning of Hydrogen. Without it the earth could be a perpetual ball of burn.

All matter as we know it was once derived from Hydrogen including Carbon and other elements. It, hydrogen is the singularity with its energy unleashed. With sufficient energy put back into these elements of today, they too shall return to a state of Hydrogen and again become that singularity.

As Albert Einstein stated, Energy can neither be created, or destroyed .

It can however be misused or wasted in its transformations that do not result in the work it could produce in a useful manner.  Waste not, want not.

Right now we are being bombarded with fraudulent / Hoax / misleading concepts on how to produce MORE, not how to use less more efficiently. Though independence is desirable with our automobiles and other carrots of society we stand at a time of rampant frauds of "Who's better / Who's best". There are many better Ideas that have been tried, but because they did not produce a hefty profit they were cast aside. We have been tempted into using more, consistently with the "Look how much easier life could be" tactics. 

Thanks for the Article Ed !

More information to take in for thought. 

Comment by Ed Anderson on September 3, 2016 at 4:23am

I agree with landscape and noise arguments against wind turbines, but climate change denial perpetuates stereotypes of country bumpkins who mainly want to rail against anything "liberal/environmental" even while they seem to respect landscapes (which are the environment, after all). You can’t effectively fight articulate industry propaganda with conspiracy theories and anti-wind groups should stick to science consistently. You can fight the wind power scourge without emulating Fox News.

CO2 is well understood as the main source of radiative forcing. Its basic properties of trapping infrared heat have been known since the 1800s. More CO2 traps more heat, and Man is adding more of it (beyond background levels) than natural sources. It moderates the more powerful water vapor that cycles in and out. The Earth would be mostly frozen without CO2 as a “trace gas.” Denying AGW is just a step removed from denying the whole CO2 greenhouse effect that allows life on Earth.

Comment by Paula D Kelso on July 20, 2016 at 11:01pm

To be clear, I did not ask to be in the executive session, I was hounded out of the open meeting when I confronted the Board and the town attorney as to the ethics of one of the developers sitting in the executive session while the town's court case re: his project was being discussed. I think I did make my point though. Several months later after the developers lost in court, when the select board went into executive session to discuss the implications of the Town contesting the court decision, the developer/board member was not allowed into the executive session. A little late in the game, but it made things a little more bearable; and the Board decided not to pursue further court action.

Ethics ordinance and recall ordinance have been proposed, but the select board decided not to put them to a vote. Would have needed a citizen petition to get them on a ballot with the Board opposed. I guess we can't blame everything on the wind energy application; stress the system and find out where the weaknesses are. And they popped up all over the place.

Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on July 20, 2016 at 7:59pm

Once they are in Executive session, they can call in anyone to present the information they need to receive, however they are not to be divulging information to the witness. It is suppose to be a one way communication. You can not sit in executive session unless invited and only for the time that they need you there. Also you are not suppose to be there with others unless they were invited as a part of your team or group. The state of Maine has a  minimal standard of ethics for town officials, and it may be voted by the citizens to have a higher standard, though MMA will discourage it and help the officials to overcome any effort. The best way to deal with a local official is to have a recall ordinance, so that if they violate a Federal law, State statute or Local Ordinance (a crime against the community) they can be removed. During executive session it is generally no documentation created and it is advised not to do so, as if they did it MUST be disclosed as public materials. This is one of the reasons it is hard to prove anything against Officials at any level. But those invited get some insight as to where they are heading and have time to adjust accordingly so they may more easily sneak into a situation that benefits them.

Comment by Paula D Kelso on July 20, 2016 at 5:53pm

Eric, you mean it wasn't kosher for one of our select board members who was and is a partner of Pisgah Mtn LLC to sit on the Board and participate in discussions of the project and go into executive session with the town attorney to discuss 'legal matters'? Gee, and I was forced out of the room when I complained. I believe the State repealed their ethics provisions for state officials in favor of having an ethics board instead. How is that working for us?

Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on July 20, 2016 at 2:38pm

The Governor, Legislators, employees of agencies in Maine should be required to be divested (1 month out) from any  investments in direct connection of any project they are working on. And be required to remain so for a project's longevity after departing their positions subject to fines if they choose to remain as a resident of this State. 

Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."


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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT


(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.”

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