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Comment by Long Islander on March 2, 2019 at 10:52am

From December and really unknown to most Mainers thanks to sins of omission from the Maine press:

All six Maine land based wind project bids rejected by State of Connecticut

Comment by Long Islander on March 2, 2019 at 12:50am

A four minute segment from the 2/28/19 telecast of Tucker Carlson Tonight on this subject. The guest is Michael Shellenberger.

Comment by Willem Post on March 1, 2019 at 2:24pm

Nuclear a Rational Approach to Reduce CO2 than Wind and Solar


As a more rational alternative, the world should build 200,000 MW of nuclear plants each year.

A large part of the world’s fossil fuel consumption and CO2 emissions would be reduced.

Nuclear typically requires only about one half acre of site area per MW, i.e., 200,000 MW would require about 100,000 acres. Solar, wind onshore, and wind offshore would require 84, 612 and 980 times as much area. See table 3A

That would require far less grid work than hooking up all those wind and solar plants.


No futuristic, expensive, energy-guzzling, short-lived batteries would be required.

No microgrids would be required

No islanding would be required


Within 20 years, nuclear generation would be 20 x 200,000 x 8766 x 0.90 = 31,558 TWh/y

Capital cost about $1.0 trillion/y, at $5000/kW. See Note.


World generation was about 25,551 TWh/y in 2018.

World generation likely would be about 40,965 kWh/y 20 years from now, at growth of 2.5%/y.

The world would have 31558/40965 = 77% of all electricity from nuclear, just as France has today. See Appendix


NOTE: France has CO2/kWh about ten times lower than Germany had in 2018. See Appendix



Korea is building a nuclear plant with four APR1400 units, on about 2000 acres, for $24.4 billion, or $4360/kW, at Barakah in the United Arab Emirates, UAE.

The plant will provide 25% of UAE electrical generation.

The plant is designed to last 60 years.

The plant, operating 24/7/365, will have an 18-month fuel cycle, refuel for one month, and repeat the cycle

The plant production could be 60 y x 5600 MW x 8766 h/y x 0.90, capacity factor = 2651 TWh after 60 years

This can be repeated all over the world.

The world would need to place on line 200000/5600 = 38 of such plants each year for 20 years to achieve 77% of all electricity from nuclear.See URL



- The world has been spending about $250 to $300 billion/y on wind, solar and other renewables for at least 20 years. World CO2 emissions have increasedduring that time and since COP21 in Paris in 2015.

- The world would need to immediately start spending at least $1.5 TRILLION/y for at least the next 50 years to bend the CO2 emissions curve down per Paris COP21 targets. The likelihood of that happening is near zero.


Comparison of Area Requirements of Nuclear, Wind And Solar


A Barakah-type nuclear plant produces 84 times more electricity than solar, 612 times more than onshore wind, and 980 times more than offshore wind per acre. See table 3A


It would be lunacy to inflict the environmental damage, including damage to remaining fauna and flora, resulting from covering the world with wind turbines and solar panels, that would produce variable, intermittent electricity, that would be totally dependent on the vagaries of wind and sun, and that would require 1) gas turbine plants for peaking, filling-in and balancing and/or 2) TWh-scale battery systems.


Table 3A compares production and area impacts of various energy sources. On a given area, nuclear would produce 84, 612, and 980 times more electricity than solar, wind onshore and wind offshore.


Table 3A



Wind, onshore

Wind, offshore


Capacity, MW





Period, y










Capacity factor





Site area, acre










Lifetime production, TWh/60y





Production, TWh/1000 acre









Comment by Penny Gray on March 1, 2019 at 2:00pm

reposted on Facebook.  Excellent.

Comment by Whetstone_Willy on March 1, 2019 at 11:38am

The sole reason for our carbon tax is to bring you to heel. 99% of scientists agree that assessing tread wear of shoes is an effective method of reducing your CO2 exhalations. With our climate change indoctrination programs in the schools, media and Hollywood, we hope this will be a shoe-in at some point soon.


Maine as Third World Country:

CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power


Click here to read how the Maine ratepayer has been sold down the river by the Angus King cabal.

Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT


(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.”

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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."

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