PPH - New CMP bills foreshadow increased consumer involvement

When the supply can't be depended upon as it can with a source like natural gas, an alternate way to match up supply and demand is to control the demand. Enter the smart meter.

"A smart grid would allow the integration of variable energy sources like wind and solar. For example, if electricity output dropped suddenly due to a change in wind generation, the grid could dim the lights in big box stores by 20%, a change most people don't perceive, say Don Von Dollen, program manager for the IntelliGrid project at the Electric Power Research Institute".


The more you learn about the so called smart meter, including its demand-regulating role within "central planning's" grand vision, the more it smarts. You don't really need that air conditioner on just because it's 95 degrees and humid and you are trying to sleep, now do you?


Avangrid expects to roll out an optional pilot program with dynamic pricing as early as next year, using smart meters now being installed in Ithaca, New York. Utilities there would increase prices during periods of high demand and lower them when demand is low, typically between 9 p.m. and 6 a.m. and on weekends.......“Once a month, it gives consumers an opportunity to look at their bill and make some decisions,” said Barry Hobbins, Maine’s Public Advocate. “Maybe we should get a more-efficient air conditioner, or look at converting to another heating fuel.”


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Comment by Jim Wiegand on August 17, 2017 at 1:06pm

Dynamic pricing probably means dynamic profits.  It may also be a way to pass off already accounted for transmissions losses, on to ignorant consumers

Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on August 17, 2017 at 12:40pm

Even if the dynamic pricing should cover the cost of the increased current surges on a smart meter, to stabilize the power bill, it does not cover the costs of premature wearing out of the devices that use the power. That is upon you, the consumer. (profits for manufacturers to replace or upgrade you)


Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on August 17, 2017 at 12:33pm

Dropping 20%..... LOL........ Hp requirement is Hp requirement. The lights or the motors or other appliances do not know anything other than that they demand the total Hp (watts) to function without killing themselves. 

Each time you see your lights dim, it is nearing that 80% drop out (fail) level.

Given that Voltage are inverse of each other, If voltage goes down, current must increase in order to maintain the same Wattage (Hp). Of course the utilities would love to see voltage drops, as the meters read only the current. A 20% drop would up the current draw thus increasing the power bill.

Motors begin heating in excess with a 20% drop causing premature degradation to eventual failures. Along with other devices though less noticed.  

A 100-watt bulb, designed for 120 Volt draws 0.833 amps of current. 

The same 100-watt bulb designed for 120 Volts, reduced to 100 Volts draws 1.0 amps of current (assuming the filament is strong enough to survive and not burn out)  

Small businesses beware, that 20% voltage drop is a 20% increase in your power bill. Unless Businesses have a very special smart meter that are attached to controlled power devices for them alone, everyone's power bill could be increased with this scheme, given line voltage drops equally on the grids that are joined together.

Comment by arthur qwenk on August 17, 2017 at 12:02pm

 just nowDelete Comment

Work to go off grid!

Educate yourself,it is doable even in Maine.

Energy conservation is a start,then cut the lines with LP gas,solar ,wind,biomass home generation. 

Centralized power control is on the way controlled by scoundrels.

Take independent action. Lead acid batteries,controllers and inverters have come a long way.

The weak link is your knowledge of going off grid and desire to do so.

It is not that complicated


Maine as Third World Country:

CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power


Click here to read how the Maine ratepayer has been sold down the river by the Angus King cabal.

Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT


(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/

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"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."


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