Weather-dependent wind and solar often supply too much or too little electricity. The “100%-RE-in-Vermont” folks want to charge the unused electricity in battery systems and discharge it, as needed, during peak demand hours. They propose a $1.2 billion down-payment on “Fortress Vermont”.
- About $900 million would be for new electricity storage systems, during the 2020 – 2025 period, and several $billions thereafter, to implement “100%-RE-in-Vermont”. The battery capacity would be about $900 million/($750/kWh) = 1200 MWh, i.e., 300 MW delivered for 4 hours. See Notes.
- About $300 million would be to pay wind/solar system owners whose electricity outputs would be curtailed during high winds and very sunny days, during the 2020 – 2025 period.
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-vagaries-of-solar-...
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/high-costs-of-wind-sol...
NOTE: NREL defines the 4-hour duration as the output duration of the battery, such that a 4-hour device would be able to discharge at rated capacity for 4-hours. In practice that would mean that the device would charge for more than 4 hours and would nominally hold more than its rated energy capacity in order to compensate for losses during charge and discharge.
FROM FORTRESS VERMONT TO FORTRESS NEW ENGLAND
If a future NE electricity mix would be 40% from wind, 40% from solar, and the rest from hydro and wood and refuse burning (gas and nuclear plants would be closed), and if all of New England were as foolish as Vermont, and Fortress Vermont were to become Fortress New England, instead of a “down-payment” of about $1.2 billion, about 122/6 x 1.2 = $24.4 billion would be required to install 122/6 x 2400 = 48,800 MW of battery storage systems during the 2020 – 2025 period.
About 122/6 x 0.9 = $18.3 billion would recur every 15 years to replace the battery systems!
Additional multi-$billion "down-payments" would be required after 2025.
All that, and more, would be shifted onto ratepayers, taxpayers and debt, to support the massive build-outs of heavily subsidized cripples, called wind and solar, that could not even exist on the grid without the other generators and/or grid-scale storage systems. See URL.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-shifting-is-the-na...
6-Day Wind/Solar Lull: The normal average electricity fed to the NE grid during a 6-day period is about 122 billion/365 x 6 = 2 billion kWh.
In case of a randomly occurring, 6-day wind/solar lull, about 664.4 million kWh would be fed to the NE grid, as shown in table 1.
The NE battery (48,800 MWh) could provide only about 50% of its capacity (24,400 MWh), because the rest has to be available for 1) midday DUCK-curve management (which may involve curtailment) and 2) counteracting the ups and downs of wind/solar outputs, 24/7/365.
If demand management/rationing were applied to reduce normal average electricity fed to the NE grid from 2000 to 1600 million kWh, the shortfall would be 2000 – 400 - 664.4 = 935.6 million kWh, which could be made up by:
1) imports, if sufficient connections to adjacent grids, or
2) a very large capacity of batteries, which would be off-the-charts expensive.
Connections to Adjacent Grids: About 10,000 MW of new connections to adjacent grids (about $15 billion, turnkey), operated at 0.65 capacity factor, could provide the 935.6 million kWh shortfall during the 6 days.
NOTE: What would happen if a second lull comes along a few days later, and the battery systems are not yet sufficiently charged after dealing with the first lull, as happened in Germany. See URL
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/wind-and-solar-energy-l...
Some URLs for information:
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/comparison-of-ne-vt-hyd...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/vermont-co2-reduction-o...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/vermont-co2-reduction-o...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/response-to-energy-acti...
Embodied CO2 of Battery Storage Systems: Here is an estimate of embodied CO2 of the grid-scale NE battery system, which, as we saw, was not anywhere near adequate during a 6-d wind/solar lull in NE. Many more such batteries systems would be required.
Embodied CO2 of mass-produced batteries for EVs likely would be less per MWh, than of custom-built, field-erected, battery systems.
Embodied CO2 of a Nissan Leaf Plus battery (62 kWh) would be about 10.10/62 = 0.163 metric ton/kWh; battery life about 15 years
Embodied CO2 of the NE battery (48,800 MWh) would be at least 0.163 x 48,800,000/15 = 530,000 Mt/y.
That CO2 would need to be included with the overall CO2 of the NE grid. See URL, table 1
https://theicct.org/sites/default/files/publications/EV-life-cycle-...
Table 1/6d W/S lull |
Normal |
Normal |
6d W/S lull |
6d W/S lull |
Generation |
% |
million kWh |
% |
million kWh |
Wind |
40.0 |
800 |
6.0 |
120 |
Solar |
40.0 |
800 |
6.0 |
120 |
Hydro/Wood/Refuse |
20.0 |
400 |
20.0 |
400 |
Battery |
0.0 |
0 |
3.7 |
24.4 |
Fed to NE grid |
100.0 |
2000 |
35.7 |
664.4 |
Fed to grid shortfall |
1335.6 |
|||
Demand management |
400.0 |
|||
Fed to grid shortfall |
935.6 |
|||
Period, h |
144 |
|||
Imports, MW |
6497 |
|||
Capacity factor |
0.65 |
|||
New connections, MW |
10000 |
FORTRESS PROPONENTS OPPOSED TO LOW-COST CANADIAN HYDRO ELECTRICITY
FORTRESS folks, who tirelessly peddle their heavily subsidized, expensive, variable/intermittent wind/solar electricity, that requires expensive, grid-scale, storage and expensive grid augmentation/expansion, absolutely do not want low-cost competition from any source, especially if that source would be 1) low-cost, say 5.7 c/kWh, and 2) would require no storage and minimal grid augmentation/expansion.
VT-DPS employees, on loan to the legislature, “are helping” legislators write a FORTRESS VERMONT bill that specifically limits Hydro-Quebec to about 33% of the Vermont electricity fed to grid. That way, FORTRESS folks get to play their expensive “islanding/fortress” games with the other 67%.
EXISTING CONDITIONS
At present, almost all of Vermont’s electricity is physically drawn from the ISO-NE-monitored, high-voltage grid, which delivers electricity “on demand”, i.e., there is very little need for grid-scale electricity storage.
There are paperwork arrangements, called PPAs, where utilities contract to buy renewable electricity from in-state and out-of-state producers, but that is merely bookkeeping for accountability, and has nothing to do with the physical drawing of electricity from the HV grid.
Wind/solar could not even function on any grid without the other generators (mostly gas turbines) continuously varying their outputs, as needed, 24/7/365, to maintain ISO-NE-specified grid conditions
ELECTRICITY STORAGE REQUIREMENTS IN NEW ENGLAND AND VERMONT
If it were arbitrarily decided for Vermont to do without the other NE generators (rely only on in-state generated electricity, plus at most 33% from “big hydro”, i.e., Hydro-Quebec), grid-scale storage would be required to cover: 1) daily demand variations, 2) wind/solar lulls up to 6 days, and 3) seasonal variations.
Estimated Storage Requirements for New England: If all of New England were to follow Vermont, about 10 TWh of storage would be required to cover: 1) daily demand variations, 2) wind/solar lulls up to 6 days, and 3) seasonal variations.
- The storage systems would have a useful life of about 15 years; I have taken low annual average capacity factors to reduce wear and tear, and prolong life, as shown in table 1
- Based on long-term studies of Tesla Model S batteries, a degradation up to 10% would occur during a 15-year lifetime.
https://electrek.co/2018/04/14/tesla-battery-degradation-data/
- The energy source mix would be: 1) mostly wind, solar and hydro, plus 2) some tree and waste burning, 3) no nuclear, and 4) minimal gas turbine plants mostly for standby.
- The turnkey cost would be about $2.5 TRILLION, based on future turnkey storage at an average of $250/kWh.
See URLs
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/wind-plus-solar-plus-st...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/wind-and-solar-energy-l...
Embodied CO2 of Battery Storage Systems:
- NE solar CO2/kWh is about 64 g/kWh, largely due to China’s energy-intensive mining of raw materials, and low-efficiency coal-fired power plants (high CO2/kWh).
- NE solar CO2/kWh is higher than most elsewhere in the US, because of poor NE solar conditions. CO2/kWh is lowest in the sunny US southwest.
- The embodied CO2 of batteries storage systems would be about 10.10/62 = 0.163 metric ton/kWh (Nissan Leaf Plus), or 1.63 billion Mt for 10 TWh of batteries, or 1.63/15 = 10.9 million Mt/y. That CO2 would need to be added to the overall CO2 of the NE grid. See URL, table 1
https://theicct.org/sites/default/files/publications/EV-life-cycle-...
Estimated Storage Requirements for Vermont: If Fortress Vermont were implemented, Vermont would need:
Alternative No. 1: About 6/122 x 10 = 0.49 TWh of storage, if “big hydro” did not perform the peaking and filling-in, 24/7/365, for Vermont.
Peaking, filling-in and fine-tune balancing would be performed in Vermont.
The turnkey capital cost would be about (6, VT grid load) / (122, NE grid load) x $2500 billion = $123 billion
Alternative No. 2: About 20,000 MWh of storage, if “big hydro” did perform almost all of the peaking and filling-in, 24/7/365, for Vermont, as is done by Norway’s hydro plants for Denmark.
The storage systems would: 1) mitigate mid-day DUCK curves, 2) surges in wind electricity, and 3) fine-tune balancing.
The turnkey capital cost would be about 20000 x 1000 x 250 = $5.0 billion, i.e., the above $900 million would indeed be just a "down-payment for the Fortress", but only if “big hydro” helps out, just as Norway’s hydro plants help out Denmark.
STORAGE ECONOMICS IN CASE OF NET-METERED SOLAR; dealing with daily DUCK curves
The storage systems would mitigate the grid-disturbing DUCK curves, by absorbing unused mid-day solar electricity, when demand is low, and releasing it during late-afternoon/early-evening, when demand is high.
Battery systems: 1) have an electricity loss of about 15 to 20%, grid-voltage to grid-voltage basis, 2) have high turnkey cost per installed kWh, and 3) last only about 15 years.
Net-Metered Cost: The lost quantity of electricity had been net-metered before entering the battery system and, as such, was added to the GMP rate base at about 21.8 c/kWh; a cost shift onto ratepayers. The more electricity going through storage, the larger the addition of expensive electricity to the rate base, and the greater the cost shift onto ratepayers. See table D in Appendix.
Battery Loss Cost: The additional cost of sending expensive, subsidized, solar electricity through a battery system would be about 15 to 20 c/kWh; includes amortizing the battery at 3.5% for 15 years.
Total Cost: Table 1 shows the cost of sending net-metered electricity through the $900 million, 2400-MWh, battery system, at various battery load cycles, at 17.5% throughput loss, with met-metered at 21.8 c/kWh, and amortizing at 3.5% for 15 years. Fixed and variable maintenance and operation costs are ignored
https://www.myamortizationchart.com
Total cost = 21.8 + 14.9 = 36.7 c/kWh. i.e., net-metered solar with batteries is about 7 to 8 times more expensive than just buying wholesale from the grid. See Notes
NOTE: The state government may claim amortizing the capital cost does not apply to the state, because it just extorts, interest-free, any money from ratepayers and taxpayers, as needed. All it needs is a law authorizing the extortions.
NOTE: Often the comment is made battery systems for shifting solar electricity from mid-day to late-afternoon/early-evening (a form of peak-shaving) does not pay, unless:
1) The electric rate differential is extremely high, and
2) The battery systems would perform other grid services, such as fine-tune balancing. However, the NE grid needs very little of such fine-tune balancing; i.e. a few battery systems could perform the service.
NOTE: NE wholesale prices of electricity have averaged about 5 c/kWh, starting in 2009, due to decreasing prices of low-cost, domestic gas and the already-low-cost prices of nuclear, which together were 76% of total NE generation of electricity in 2019. Those low prices have been a major boost for the NE economy.
NOTE: At present, the subsidized owners of net-metered solar systems get paid about 18 c/kWh, and GMP gets paid about 3.8 c/kWh, “to cover various costs”, for a total of 21.8 c/kWh. See Appendix, table D.
Table 1/Storage cost |
|
|
|
|
Battery capacity |
MWh |
2400 |
2400 |
2400 |
Capacity factor |
0.29 |
0.33 |
0.38 |
|
Into Battery, daily average |
MWh/d |
700 |
800 |
900 |
Loss fraction, A to Z basis |
0.175 |
0.175 |
0.175 |
|
Out of battery, daily average |
MWh/d |
577.5 |
660 |
742.5 |
Loss |
MWh/d |
122.5 |
140 |
157.5 |
Net-metered cost |
c/kWh |
21.8 |
21.8 |
21.8 |
COST |
||||
Net-metered cost |
$/d |
26,705 |
30,520 |
34,335 |
Net-metered cost |
$/15y |
146,209,875 |
167,097,000 |
187,984,125 |
Amortizing cost |
$/15y |
1,158,109,717 |
1,158,109,717 |
1,158,109,717 |
Total cost |
$/15y |
1,304,319,592 |
1,325,206,717 |
1,346,093,842 |
Total out of battery |
kWh/15y |
3,161,812,500 |
3,613,500,000 |
4,065,187,500 |
Cost |
c/kWh |
41.3 |
36.7 |
33.1 |
Storage cost adder |
c/kWh |
19.5 |
14.9 |
11.3 |
REDUCING ISO-NE FCM AND RNS CHARGES WITH BATTERIES IS A FANTASY
FCM and RNS Reduction: The economics of the battery would be significantly improved, if the reduction of forward capacity market, FCM, and regional network services, RNS, charges were credited to the battery. See table 2
The storage systems would mitigate the grid-disturbing DUCK curves, by absorbing unused mid-day solar electricity, when demand is low, and releasing it during late-afternoon/early-evening, when demand is high.
On average, this could reduce VT peak demand from, say 900 MW to 500 MW, which would reduce ISO-NE charges for FCM and RNS to VT utilities by about $81 million/y or 1.215 billion/15y; the charges are based on yearly peak demand and monthly peak demand, respectively.
The FCM charge reduction could be (900 – 500) x 7.03 x 1000 x 12 = $33,744,000 for the 2019/2020 period
The RNS charge reduction could be (900 – 500) x 9.83 x 1000 x 12 = $47,184,000 for the 2019/2021 period
However, that reduction would be a fantasy, because utilities in other NE states would also install grid-scale batteries.
The NE grid peak demands would be reduced, but not the costs of the FCM and RNS programs.
ISO-NE would significantly increase their rates, $/kW-month, to cover program costs, i.e., the FCM, RNS reduction would be much less, and the Net cost adder would be much larger. See table 2
Table 2/Total cost from table 1 |
$/15y |
1,304,319,592 |
1,325,206,717 |
1,346,093,842 |
FCM, RNS reduction |
$/15y |
1,215,000,000 |
1,215,000,000 |
1,215,000,000 |
Net cost |
$/15y |
89,319,592 |
110,206,717 |
131,093,842 |
Total out of battery |
kWh/15y |
3,161,812,500 |
3,613,500,000 |
4,065,187,500 |
Net cost adder |
c/kWh |
2.82 |
3.05 |
3.22 |
Net-metered cost |
c/kWh |
21.8 |
21.8 |
21.8 |
Total cost |
c/kWh |
24.62 |
24.85 |
25.02 |
See URL pages 10 and 11 for historic FCM and RNS rates imposed on utilities by ISO-NE
https://legislature.vermont.gov/assets/Legislative-Reports/Annual-2...
Table 3/Period |
2018/2019 |
2019/2020 |
2020/2021 |
2021/2022 |
$/kW-month |
$/kW-month |
$/kW-month |
$/kW-month |
|
FCM |
9.95 |
7.03 |
5.3 |
4.63 |
RNS |
9.17 |
9.83 |
10.42 |
10.83 |
COST SHIFTING ONTO RATEPAYERS AND TAXPAYERS
Per standard practice, to make the cost “disappear”, the cost likely would be: 1) spread over the 6 billion kWh/y fed to the Vermont grid, just like all other such costs over the years, and/or 2) show up as a “Fortress Vermont” surcharge on electric bills, just as the onerous Efficiency Vermont surcharge.
Why are the subsidized owners of solar systems not paying for these storage systems, as they are the grid disturbers?
Instead, based on past history, the cost likely would be indiscriminately shifted onto ratepayers and taxpayers, the vast majority of whom do not even own, or cannot even afford, solar systems
EUROPEAN GRID INTERCONNECTION MUCH LESS COSTLY THAN BATTERY STORAGE
European countries have been dealing with exactly those wind/solar problems for at least 15 - 25 years.
Their mantra is interconnect. interconnect, interconnect, which Germany, Denmark, Ireland, the Netherlands, France, etc., did and are still doing. Just Google.
That is the OPPOSITE of what FORTRESS folks are fantasizing about. No wonder my reaction was:
VERMONT IS GOING TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET WITH FOOLISH ENERGY SYSTEMS
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/vermont-is-going-to-hel...
GERMANY
Germany has installed a lot of solar and wind systems, plus strong connections to nearby grids, such as France, Norway, the Netherlands, etc. That way any excess or shortage of solar/wind electricity (due to the randomness of winds blowing and sun shining) is balanced by electricity flows to and from the German grid. Germany is a net exporter of electricity.
As a result, Germany requires very little grid-scale battery storage, which, as shown above, would be insanely expensive, even at a future $250/kWh for turnkey systems. The expensive battery-storage approach would have adversely affected the competitiveness of the German economy.
Germany does not think of itself as FORTRESS GERMANY, because that would be considered beyond rational, by the engineers who run the energy systems.
The German electricity fed to grid is about 600 TWh/y versus Vermont about 6 TWh/y.
The folly of a $900 million “down-payment for a FORTRESS VERMONT” would be about $90 billion for a FORTRESS GERMANY.
High Household Electric Rates: Because Germany has installed a high level of wind/solar capacity per capita, it also has the highest household electric rates in Europe, about 30 eurocent/kWh. The more wind/solar, the higher the household electric rates.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Electr...
DENMARK
Denmark does exactly the same as Germany. It has strong connections to nearby grids, such as Norway, the Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, etc. It could never have as much installed wind capacity/capita, if it it did not have such strong connections
Because Denmark has installed a high level of wind capacity/capita, it also has the highest household electric rates in Europe, about 30 eurocent/kWh. The more wind/solar, the higher the household electric rates.
IRELAND
Ireland, a much windier country than Vermont, especially on the west coast, had an island grid until a few years ago, similar to the NE grid, that prevented the installation of more wind turbines.
The EU, in Brussels, provided Ireland with subsidies to install strong connections with the larger UK and French grids to counteract the ups and downs of Irish wind electricity; no storage was required in Ireland, and many more wind turbines were installed.
If it had not been for lower prices of imported gas, electric rates would be closer to those of Denmark and Germany!!
NEW ENGLAND
If New England installs more wind and solar systems, it will need stronger connections to nearby grids in the near future (with nuclear and gas plants closing?), NE would:
- Get the peaking, filling-in of NE wind and solar practically for free, plus
- Have electricity imports under power purchase agreements, PPAs;
- Two birds with one stone.
- Fine-tune balancing would continue to be in NE.
NE would be exporting its excess of expensively subsidized wind/solar electricity during high winds or strong sunshine at low prices, which would benefit Hydro-Quebec, because it would merely vary the flow through its hydro plants, as needed by demand, 24/7/365.
The alternative would be to expensively store that excess electricity in heavily subsidized storage systems.
VERMONT
Why are Vermont career-bureaucrats and career-legislators advocating electricity storage systems costing $1.2 BILLION, as a down payment, towards creating “FORTRESS VERMONT”?
There are no good engineering reasons, as shown by Germany, Denmark and Ireland
Vermont should have strong connections to nearby grids as well, just as Germany, Denmark and Ireland.
LAES and Battery Systems in the NEK: However, this about having liquid air energy storage, LAES, and battery storage systems in northeast Vermont, NEK, because future 600-ft tall wind turbine systems on pristine, 2000-ft-high ridge lines are “planned” for that sparsely populated area, which has a weak grid to serve its low electricity demand.
The NEK people are opposed to being used as a doormat, i.e., suffer the blight, the noise, and the adverse environmental impact of hundreds of noisy wind turbines on their beautiful ridge lines, likely owned by out-of-state millionaires, to produce electricity for the west side of Vermont, which has high electricity demand, i.e., Manchester, Burlington, Montpelier, Rutland, etc.
The people in those towns control the legislature. They are “pro-wind”, just not in their backyard, per hypocrite-NIMBY syndrome.
NOTE: It is no accident Highview Power, a UK company, eager to do more business in the US, has been talking with Vermont Electric Co-op about its LAES systems. The LAES storage systems would serve to expensively reduce the disturbances wind electricity would impose on the weak NEK grid.
Clean Energy Development Fund: CEDF, likely would grant 50%, or more, of any capital cost required to build battery and LAES systems to make the “numbers” look better; CEDF used to be funded by Vermont Yankee and ARRA funds.
With enough subsidies, even pigs can be made to fly!
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/liquid-air-energy-storage-laes-in-vermont
NOTE: VY produced 4.7 billion kWh/y of steady electricity, year after year, with no particulates, near-zero CO2, at about 4.5 to 5 c/kWh.
It was a major benefit for the Vermont economy.
Closing VY was sold by Shumlin as a victory.
In reality, it was Shumlin shooting Vermont in the foot to get re-elected.
The loss of VY caused a significant recession/malaise in the south of Vermont.
FORTRESS VERMONT
Career-legislators/career-bureaucrats have come up with a catchy slogan, Fortress Vermont, to fool Vermonters and legislators, and to make it easier to get into their wallets and bank accounts.
No other state is aiming to be a “Fortress” regarding renewable energy, not even Germany, Denmark or Ireland.
All of rah-rah is just a ploy to get money, extracted from ratepayers and taxpayers, so CEDF could distribute largesse throughout the state to favored folks, such as the politically well-connected RE companies.
The tax payer funds would be used for subsidizing the building of expensive energy systems that later would turn out not to reduce CO2 at a reasonable cost as promised, as with:
1) The urging and subsidizing ASHPs in Vermont’s energy-hog houses.
Owners have annual losses, if amortizing the cost of ASHPs is taken into account.
Little CO2 is reduced/ASHP.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-savings-of-air-sou...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/vermont-co2-reduction-o...
2) The urging and subsidizing EVs replacing gasoline vehicles.
Owners have small $gains, or even losses, if amortizing the extra cost of EVs is taken into account.
The CO2 reduction is not nearly as large as bandied about by EAN, on an A to Z lifetime basis.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-proper-basis-for-ca...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/vermont-co2-reduction-o...
3) The urging and subsidizing of expensive and inadequate weatherizing of Vermont’s energy-hog houses, which would still not allow 100% space heat from ASHPs!!
Remember, these are the same folks who, some years ago, colluded to set up a subsidized program to have ASHPs in energy-hog houses, which turned out to be an expensive flop for almost all homeowners, but a bonanza for Efficiency Vermont’s “approved” installers, and Japanese ASHP manufacturers.
Remember, these are the same folks who, some years ago, colluded to set up a plethora of heavily subsidized energy programs that had the net effect of:
- Lining the pockets of the politically well-connected
- Imposing a lot of extra costs on the hard-working people, trying to make ends meet, in the near-zero, real-growth, Vermont economy.
- Not reducing Vermont’s CO2 from 1990 to 2018, despite investing about $5 billion in energy systems over about 28 years.
APPENDIX 1
NE Electric Grid CO2
ISO-NE uses fuel/energy fed to power plants, PE, to calculate CO2/kWh.
ISO-NE does not include CO2 of upstream energy
Upstream is about 10.2% of PE CO2
https://www.iso-ne.com/static-assets/documents/2020/01/draft_2018_e...
Fed to grid becomes 299 x 1.102 = 329 g CO2/kWh, SE basis.
Fed to wall meter becomes 323 x 1.102 = 356 g CO2/kWh, SE basis.
For analysis purposes, 356 g/kWh should be used for electricity via any wall meter in NE.
Table A shows:
Source energy required for a quantity of electricity at wall sockets.
Values for Tesla Model 3 (0.3080 and 0.2449 kWh/mile) and Model S (0.4339 and 0.3329 kWh/mile), based on real-world conditions in California and upstate NY, for a year. Both are more efficient EVs compared to other EVs.
Value for a mix of LDVs was assumed at 0.350 kWh/mile.
Table A/NE grid for 2018 |
LDV mix |
Tesla |
Tesla |
Grid CO2 |
Grid CO2 |
Model S |
Model 3 |
PE |
SE |
||
kWh/mile |
kWh/mile |
kWh/mile |
g/kWh |
g/kWh |
|
Source energy |
1.2291 |
1.1713 |
0.8315 |
||
Upstream for extract, process, transport, 10.2% |
0.1138 |
0.1084 |
0.0770 |
||
Primary energy = Fed to power plants |
1.1153 |
1.0629 |
0.7545 |
||
Conversion loss, 55.5% |
0.6078 |
0.5793 |
0.4112 |
||
Gross generation |
0.5075 |
0.4836 |
0.3433 |
||
Plant self-use loss, 3.0% |
0.0152 |
0.0145 |
0.0103 |
||
Net generation = Fed to grid |
0.4922 |
0.4691 |
0.3330 |
299 |
329 |
T&D loss, 7.5% |
0.0369 |
0.0352 |
0.0250 |
||
Fed to wall meters = Fed to grid x 0.925 |
0.4553 |
0.4339 |
0.3080 |
323 |
356 |
Charging loss, 15% of WM |
0.0683 |
0.0651 |
0.0462 |
||
Loss due to self-use, NE road/climate |
0.0370 |
0.0359 |
0.0169 |
||
In batteries for a mix of LDVs, as DC |
0.3500 |
0.3329 |
0.2449 |
420 |
463 |
APPENDIX 2
Vermont Electricity Sector CO2
Based on Physics, per ISO-NE: Electricity, via any wall socket, would have the NE mix of electricity; CO2 of 323 g/kWh, WM basis, PE basis, in 2018. See table A
Electricity loaded by generators into the Vermont grid is about 6 billion kWh/y, aka “grid load“
User consumption is about 6 x (1 – 0.075) = 5.55 billion kWh/y
CO2 would be 5.55 billion kWh x 323 g/kWh x 1 lb/454 g x 1 Mt/2204.62 lb = 1,791,043 Mt/y, WM basis, PE basis, in 2018
Based on PPAs, per VT-DPS: CO2 of the “Vermont electricity mix”, based on PPAs, yields an artificial/political value of 190,000 Mt/y in 2018, or 190000/1791043 x 323 = 34 g/kWh, WM basis, PE basis, in 2018
See URL for GHG estimates for 2017 and 2018
https://dec.vermont.gov/sites/dec/files/aqc/climate-change/document...
APPENDIX 3
GMP and VT-DPS Reduce CO2
No CO2 is reduced by GMP signing paper PPAs with electricity generators, in-state or out-of-state.
It is unscientific for VT-DPS to calculate CO2 of the electricity sector, and CO2/kWh, based on paper PPAs, and for EAN to base CO2 reduction of ASHPs and EVs on VT-DPS numbers.
https://www.eanvt.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/EAN-report-2020-fi...
VT-DPS calculates CO2 of the electricity sector at 32 g/kWh for 2018, based on PPAs
ISO-NE calculates CO2 at 299 g/kWh for 2018, based on CO2 of fuel combustion. See URL page 18
https://dec.vermont.gov/sites/dec/files/aqc/climate-change/document...
https://www.iso-ne.com/static-assets/documents/2019/04/2017_emissio...
Table B/Grid CO2/Year |
1990 |
2000 |
2015 |
2016 |
2017, est. |
2018, est. |
VT-DPS, PE basis |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Electricity fed to VT grid, GWh |
6,000 |
6,000 |
6,000 |
6,000 |
6,000 |
6,000 |
Vermont electrical sector CO2, million Mt |
1.09 |
0.43 |
1 |
0.81 |
0.49 |
0.19 |
Total CO2, all sectors |
8.65 |
9.70 |
10.19 |
9.76 |
9.41 |
9.02 |
CO2, g CO2/kWh, Fed to grid basis |
72 |
167 |
135 |
82 |
32 |
|
CO2, g CO2/kWh, WM basis |
78 |
180 |
146 |
88 |
34 |
|
ISO-NE, PE basis |
||||||
NE generation fed to grid, GWh |
110,199 |
107,916 |
105,570 |
102,562 |
103,740 |
|
NE grid CO2, lb//MWh, Fed to grid basis |
726 |
747 |
710 |
682 |
658 |
|
NE grid CO2, g/kWh, Fed to grid basis |
330 |
339 |
322 |
310 |
299 |
|
NE grid CO2, g/kWh, WM basis |
357 |
366 |
348 |
335 |
323 |
APPENDIX 4
Vermont Electricity Prices
Table C last column, shows the c/kWh for electricity from wind. solar, hydro, etc., paid to owners of Standard Offer and Net-metered systems; those prices would be much higher without cost shifting and subsidies, paid by ratepayers and taxpayers. See URL
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-shifting-is-the-na...
Table C/VT In-state generation, fed to grid basis |
2000 |
2000 – 2018 |
2018 |
2018 |
Existing |
New added |
Total |
SO/NM |
|
Energy Source |
MWh |
MWh |
MWh |
c/kWh |
Hydro, VT-DPS Utility Facts 2013 |
491,878 |
21,305 |
513,183 |
13.0 |
Solar, behind and before the meter; per ISO-NE |
502,949 |
502,949 |
21.8 |
|
Ryegate, wood, per US-EIA |
166,902 |
166,902 |
10.0 |
|
McNeil, wood, per US-EIA |
244,755 |
244,755 |
10.0 |
|
Middlebury College, wood, per US-EIA |
2,298 |
2,298 |
? |
|
Farm methane; Standard Offer |
22,674 |
22,674 |
14.5 to 20.0 |
|
Landfill methane |
52,931 |
52,931 |
9.0 |
|
Wind |
161,198 |
161,198 |
11.6 to 25.8 |
|
Total |
903,535 |
763,355 |
1,666,890 |
|
VT total fed to grid, MWh |
6,000,000 |
6,000,000 |
6,000,000 |
|
VT in-state, % |
15.1 |
12.7 |
27.8 |
|
Vermont Yankee, nuclear, closed in 2015 |
4,733,640 |
4,733,640 |
||
Out-of-state purchases, incl. HQ |
4,333,110 |
|||
HQ, per Power Purchase Agreement |
1,300,000 |
5.549 |
||
ISO-NE annual average price since 2009 |
5.000 |
APPENDIX 5
GMP Cost of Electricity in 2016
Table D shows the prices GMP pays for electricity.
Standard Offer and Net-metering prices are off-the-charts expensive.
EAN members want more SO and Net-metered,
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/green-mountain-power-co...
In 2016, the PUC began competitive bidding of SO solar systems.
Some recent SO solar bids were as low as 11 c/kWh.
More SO systems would slowly reduce SO solar below 21.793 c/kWh in future years. See Appendix.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-shifting-is-the-na...
Table D/GMP costs |
1 |
2 |
3 |
4 |
5 |
GMP purchases, 2016 |
MWh |
% of purchases |
Cost, $ |
c/kWh |
% of Cost |
HQUS (Hydro-Quebec) |
919312 |
22.13 |
51013678 |
5.549 |
20.34 |
Standard Offer |
78920 |
1.90 |
17199202 |
21.793 |
6.86 |
Net-metered |
71970 |
1.73 |
15699137 |
21.813 |
6.26 |
Ryegate (wood) |
126707 |
3.05 |
12710175 |
10.031 |
5.07 |
ISO wholesale |
575553 |
13.85 |
18645214 |
3.240 |
7.43 |
Misc. sources |
1772462 |
42.66 |
115267406 |
6.503 |
45.96 |
Other sources |
2382075 |
57.34 |
135516232 |
5.689 |
54.04 |
Total GMP purchases |
4154537 |
100.00 |
250783638 |
6.036 |
100.00 |
ISO midday wholesale |
6.000 |
APPENDIX 6
Gas Guzzler Fees to Reduce CO2
Vermont should have an energy efficiency standard for light duty vehicles.
Annual fees would be paid at time of annual registration.
Inefficient vehicles would rapidly disappear.
CO2 would be rapidly reduced.
The collected funds could be used for filling potholes.
The wasteful Comprehensive Transportation Initiative, TCI, would not be needed.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/electric-vehicles-and-m...
Table E/EPA combined, mpg |
Fee, $/y |
40 |
0 |
39 |
10 |
38 |
20 |
37 |
30 |
36 |
40 |
35 |
50 |
34 |
60 |
Etc. |
APPENDIX 7
GMP Purchased Electricity Mix
GMP electricity mix based on PPAs, i.e., paper contracts.
GMP increased purchases of large hydro and nuclear, which have very low CO2/kWh.
GMP decreased purchases on the wholesale market, which had 299 g CO2/kWh in 2018, fed to grid basis, PE basis.
GMP’s paper PPAs for hydro and nuclear did not physically reduce any CO2 anywhere.
GMP is required to have such PPAs to satisfy state-RES mandates.
GMP did not need to spend any money to make any changes in its operations to reduce CO2
Table F/GMP Electricity Mix |
2017 |
2018 |
2019 |
% |
% |
% |
|
Large hydro |
23.7 |
49.4 |
|
Existing VT hydro |
6.3 |
6.3 |
|
Total hydro |
30.0 |
55.7 |
60.6 |
Wholesale market purchases |
30.4 |
28.2 |
9.8 |
Nuclear |
14.7 |
14.7 |
27.9 |
Oil and natural gas |
0.5 |
0.4 |
|
Methane |
0.7 |
||
Hydro |
5.5 |
||
Solar |
5.2 |
0.9 |
1.7 |
Wind |
8.0 |
||
Wood |
5.0 |
||
Total RE |
24.4 |
0.9 |
1.7 |
APPENDIX 8
More Wind, Solar and Storage Harmful for Vermont
GMP would need to replace the nuclear electricity, as it cannot rely on Seabrook Nuclear to be generating far into the future.
If the replacement were in-state RE (primarily wind, solar and storage), there would be major adverse environmental impacts on pristine ridge lines and open spaces in Vermont, plus the cost would be prohibitively expensive, which would adversely affect the Vermont economy. See URLs.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-shifting-is-the-na...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-more-wind-and-solar...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/excessive-subsidies-for...
APPENDIX 9
Electricity Moves as Electro-Magnetic Waves at Nearly the Speed of Light
Electricity Mix Based on Power Purchase Agreements
There are non-technical people talking about the “Vermont electricity mix” or the “New Hampshire electricity mix”. That mix exists only on paper, because it is based on power purchase agreements, PPAs, between utilities and owners of electricity generators.
If a utility claims it is 100% renewable, it has PPAs with owners of renewable generators, i.e. wind, solar, biomass, hydro, etc. That mix has nothing to do with physical reality.
If a utility did not have PPAs and drew electricity from the grid, it would be stealing, just as a person would be by bypassing the utility electric meter.
Entities, such as VT-DPS, should not use PPAs to calculate the CO2 of the VT electricity sector and CO2/kWh
Electricity Mix Based on Physics
Once electricity is fed into the NE electric grid by any generator, it travels:
- On un-insulated wires, as electromagnetic waves at somewhat less than the speed of light, i.e., from northern Maine to southern Florida, about 1800 miles in 0.01 of a second
- On insulated wires, the speed decreases to as low as 2/3 the speed of light, depending on the application.
If those speeds were not that high, the NE electric grid would not work, and modern electronics would not work.
The electrons vibrate at 60 cycles/second, 60 Hz, and travel at less than 0.1 inch/second; the reason it takes so long to charge a battery.
It is unfortunate most high school teachers told students the electrons were traveling.
Teachers likely never told them about EM waves
http://www.djtelectricaltraining.co.uk/downloads/50Hz-Frequency.pdf
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/popular-misconceptions-...
Entities, such as VT-DPS, should use the ISO-NE estimated CO2/kWh, at wall meters, to calculate CO2 of the VT electricity sector and CO2/kWh
Living Off the Grid
- If you live off the grid, have your own PV system, batteries, and generator for shortages and emergencies, then you use your own electricity mix.
- If you draw electricity from a wall socket, you draw the NE mix
APPENDIX 10
Highly Sealed, Highly Insulated House
In 2008, Transformations Inc., Townsend, MA, was chosen among six builders to participate in the state’s investor-owned utilities Zero Energy Challenge, a competition to encourage builders to plan and develop a home with a HERS Index below 35 before December 2009.
Carter Scott, President of Transformations, Inc. brought together a team of design and energy experts to not only meet the challenge, but to figure out how to get all the way to zero, while still building an affordable, new house. The team designed a three-bedroom 1,232-sq ft house, called the “Needham," which has a “- 4” HERS rating, i.e., the home is producing more energy than it is using. Sales price: $195,200 in 2009
https://www.buildingscience.com/sites/default/files/2011-03-08%20NE...
Major Design Features:
Roof (R75): 5 inches of high-density polyurethane foam, HDF, and 13 inches of high-density cellulose all along the slope of the second-floor roof rafters; 2 x 12s and a 2 x 4s held off by 3 inches for a thermal break separation
Walls (R49): 2 x 4 outside wall; added a second 2 x 4 wall for a total depth of 12 inches; filled 3 inches with HDF and 9 inches with cellulose
Basement Ceiling: 3 inches of HDF and a layer of R-30 fiberglass batts
Windows: Paradigm triple-pane model with Low-E and krypton gas
Heating/Cooling: Two Mitsubishi Mr. Slim mini-split, ductless, ASHPs
Ventilation: Lifebreath 155 ECM Energy Recovery Ventilator
Leakage: About 175 cfm at 50 pascal, per blower door test (or 284 cfm for a 2000 sq ft house. See table 8)
Solar: Evergreen Solar’s 30 Spruce Line 190-watt PV panels to create a 6.4-kW system;
Hot Water: SunDrum Solar’s DHW heating system
Heat Loss: About 10,500 Btu/h, at 70F indoor, 6F outdoor (or 2000/1232 x 75 delta T/64 delta T x 10500 = 19,975 Btu/h for a 2000 sq ft house, at 65F indoor and -10F outdoor, in Vermont)
APPENDIX 11
CO2 of Gasoline and E10
E10 fuel (90% gasoline/10% ethanol) has a source energy, which is reduced due to exploration, extraction, processing and transport, to become the primary energy fed to E10 vehicles. See URL.
http://www.patagoniaalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/How-muc...
Burning E10 (90% gasoline/10% Ethanol) = 0.9 x 19.569 + 0.1 x 12.720 = 18.884 lb/gal
Upstream = 0.9 x 4.892 + 0.1 x 13.556 = 5.759 lb/gal
Total = 24.643 lb/gal, if CO2 of ethanol fraction in gasoline (aka, gasohol, or E10) is counted.
Total = 24.643 - 1.272 = 23.371 lb/gal, if not counted.
Table G/Fuel CO2 |
Combustion |
Upstream |
Total |
lb CO2/gal |
lb CO2/gal |
lb CO2/gal |
|
Burning pure gasoline |
19.569 |
||
Upstream = 25% of combustion, per EPA |
4.892 |
||
Total |
|
24.461 |
|
Burning pure ethanol |
12.720 |
||
Cropping, processing, blending |
13.556 |
||
Total |
26.276 |
||
Burning E10 (90/10) |
18.884 |
||
Upstream |
5.759 |
||
Total, if ethanol CO2 is counted |
24.643 |
||
Total, if ethanol CO2 is not counted |
17.612 |
5.759 |
23.371 |
. |
|||
Burning pure diesel |
22.456 |
||
Upstream = 27% of combustion, per EPA |
6.063 |
||
Total |
28.519 |
||
Burning pure biodiesel, B100, soy oil |
20.130 |
||
Upstream = 43% of combustion |
8.656 |
||
Total, if biodiesel CO2 is counted |
28.786 |
||
Total, if biodiesel CO2 is not counted |
8.656 |
||
Burning B20 (80/20) |
21.991 |
||
Upstream |
6.582 |
||
Total, if biodiesel CO2 is counted |
28.572 |
||
Total, if biodiesel CO2 is not counted |
17.965 |
6.582 |
24.546 |
APPENDIX 12
The Prius Prime, plug-in hybrid, 8.8 kWh battery, partial AWD, travels about 25 miles on the battery, after which it functions as any other Prius.
Summer weather increases the 25-mile range and winter weather reduces it.
Total range about 640 miles.
Owners, with short commutes, need not buy any gasoline for months.
They only need to plug-in every day.
Per EPA, (33.7 kWh/gal-eq)/(133 mpg-eq) = 0.259 kWh/mile, WM basis; includes charging losses
Adjusted to 0.259 x 1.055, loss factor = 0.267 mile/kWh, WM basis; includes 1) charging loss, 2) self-use losses due to heating, cooling, electronics, etc., and 3) losses due to NE road/climate conditions, 4) losses due to idle time, such as parked at an airport. (Items 2, 3 and 4 are not measured by EPA)
On average, electricity use would be 25 x 0.267 = 6.675 kWh to travel 25 miles each day, WM basis.
Battery rated capacity is 8.8 kWh, DC, i.e., about 65% is utilized, because the battery control system renders the top and bottom 15% as off limits to extend battery life. The middle portion has the most efficient charging and discharging.
https://web.mit.edu/evt/summary_battery_specifications.pdf
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/bu_1003a_battery_aging_...
Daily Commuting Cost
Commuting cost for 25 miles with a Prime would be 6.675 x $0.19/kWh = $1.27/day.
Commuting cost for 25 miles with a 30-mpg gasoline vehicle would be 25/30 x $2.50/gal = $2.08/day
Lifetime CO2
Lifetime CO2 of Prime would be about 26.49 Mt/105600 miles
Lifetime CO2 of 30-mpg vehicle would be about 43.02 Mt/105600 miles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Prius_Plug-in_Hybrid
https://calevip.org/electric-vehicle-charging-101
Table H/2020 Prius |
Standard |
Eco L |
Prime, AWD |
Plug-in |
no |
no |
yes |
Battery packs |
2 |
2 |
5 |
Pack arrangement |
parallel |
parallel |
series |
Cells/pack |
28 |
28 |
19 |
Cells |
56 |
56 |
95 |
Cell energy, Ah |
3.6 |
3.6 |
25 |
Battery energy, Ah = cells x 3.6 |
201.6 |
201.6 |
2375 |
Cell voltage, V |
3.7 |
3.7 |
3.7 |
Battery voltage, V = 28 x 3.7 |
103.6 |
103.6 |
|
Battery voltage, V = 95 x 3.7 |
351.5 |
||
Battery capacity, kWh = V x Ah/1000 |
0.746 |
0.746 |
8.788 |
City |
54 |
58 |
52 |
Highway |
50 |
53 |
48 |
Combined |
52 |
56 |
50 |
APPENDIX 13
WIND, SOLAR AND HYDRO
If massive build-outs of heavily subsidized wind and solar were to occur (at great expense and environmental damage), which would have upstream CO2 emissions, electric grids would gradually become “cleaner”, i.e., have less CO2/kWh.
That approach would take decades, plus the variable, intermittent, grid disturbing, electricity from:
1) Large-scale, ridge-line wind (competitively bid) would be charged to the rate base at about 9 c/kWh, if grid support costs and subsidy costs were shifted to ratepayers, taxpayers and debt; about 18.8 c/kWh, if no cost shifting,
2) New large-scale solar (competitively bid) would be charged to the rate base at about 11.8 c/kWh, if grid support costs and subsidy costs were shifted to ratepayers, taxpayers and debt; about 23.5 c/kWh, if no cost shifting,
3) Residential net-metered solar would be charged to the rate base at about 21.813 c/kWh, if grid support costs and subsidy costs were shifted to ratepayers, taxpayers and debt; about 25.5 c/kWh, if no cost shifting.
All those prices are much higher in NE than most elsewhere in the US, because of poor wind/solar conditions in NE. See table 5A, which uses data from:
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/fortress-vermont-a-mult...
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-shifting-is-the-na...
Table I/Vermont & NE sources |
Total |
Grid support |
Subsidies |
Paid to |
GMP |
Added to |
cost |
cost |
to owner |
owner |
adder |
rate base |
|
c/kWh |
c/kWh |
c/kWh |
c/kWh |
c/kWh |
c/kWh |
|
Solar, residential rooftop, net-metered |
25.5 |
2.1 |
5.4 |
18.0 |
3.8 |
21.8 |
Solar, com’l/ind’l, legacy, standard offer |
34.4 |
2.1 |
10.5 |
21.8 |
? |
21.8 |
Solar, com’l/ind’l, new, standard offer* |
23.5 |
2.1 |
9.6 |
11.8 |
? |
11.8 |
Wind, ridge line, new* |
18.8 |
2.4 |
7.4 |
9.0 |
? |
9.0 |
. |
||||||
Gas, combined cycle, existing |
5.0 |
|||||
Gas, combined cycle, new |
6.0 |
|||||
Gas, open cycle, peaking, existing |
15.0 |
|||||
Nuclear, existing |
5.0 |
|||||
Nuclear, new |
10.0 |
|||||
Coal, existing |
5.0 |
|||||
Coal, new |
10.0 |
|||||
Hydro, existing |
5.0 |
|||||
Hydro, net metered, new |
10.0 |
|||||
Wood burning, net-metered, existing |
10.0 |
* Competitive bidding lowered prices paid to owners.
The NE wholesale price has averaged at less than 5 c/kWh, starting in 2009
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-shifting-is-the-na...
Importing more low-cost hydro (about 5.549 c/kWh, per GMP) from Quebec to replace “dangerous nuclear” and “dirty fossil” would be a very quick, smart and economic way to reduce CO2.
http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/gmp-refusing-to-buy-add...
Comment
Willem,
While that is true of large systems which can't be built in Maine, due to that progressive law. Bangor Hydro tested one that sat on the bottom and didn't require a dam, what few reports I've read it produced power enough for27 homes steady. It has specific location requirements but with all the rivers there are a number of location with steady flow. It would be a true advancement over inconsistent wind and solar with less destruction to our state's wilderness and mountains.
Stephen,
Regarding hydro, reservoirs are required to ensure adequate electricity to meet demand 24/7/365, year after year, as Norway and Hydro-Quebec have been showing us for decades. No mystery there.
The great thing about hydro, it can vary it’s output exactly to meet demand, at any time throughout the year, and do that at practically no extra cost.
Hydro plants merely vary the water flow through their turbines.
Another great thing about hydro, their cost per kWh is far lower than wind and solar, and those could not function on any grid without the other generators, and/ or very expensive grid-scale storage
Although I dislike Michael Moore intensely, I invested an hour and viewed "The Planet of the Humans" directed and produced by Bill Gibbs. In all honesty, I was stunned. The documentary exposes in detail the lies and deceit we've all known existed for years - renewable energy is a hoax, a finanacial scheme and harmful to our environment. They shame the RE movement as a capitalist money grab. Gibbs goes after all the suspects - wind, solar, biomass, biofuels, energy storage -- highlighting and debunking the outrageuos claims made by McKibben (a total asshole), Gore, Bloomberg, Branson, R.Kennedy, Jr. Gibbs peels away the slimy veneer for all to see - the ethanol/sugar cane disaster in the Amazon, the enormous pollution produced by biomass and the blatant fallacy of powering the world with wind and solar. It's a classic -- the emperor has no clothes scenario.
It has been severely panned by the enviro nazis (full of flase allegations) and its release has been cancelled - I have distributed it far and wde.
Janet Mills, her minions and cohorts would be well-served to invest an hour in getting a dose of the truth.
Here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE
As we all seem to agree that the present direction of the state is a money pit that will break the backs of small businesses, the politicians, progressives both left and right are proving that they have blinders on to anything else! With the advancements in Hydro that make dams not required Maine over the next few years would be able to outpace wind and solar and do it for billions less. The newest generation of nuclear is also relatively safe and clean, Natural gas is an excellent transition fuel, but the other two are truelly clean and renewable. And the Hydro limitation bill needs to be repealed (thank you Troy Jackson) where dams are no longer a requirement with these new generators. How wonderful it would be to be able to have a rational factual discussion with lawmakers that WORK FOR US! Instead of these lawmakers cramming this half assed reen fake energy lies down our throats while they pick our pockets!
Penny,
It is truly amazing to manage with so little electricity.
My hat is off for you!
You are proving the Disgusta folks to be hypocrites
Ideology is predicated on lies. therefore Gov, Mills believes she is honorable in her renewable policies.
What interests me is the prediction by scientists that we may be approaching a solar minimum of significant size? This would result in cooling globally. And people would begin to question the billions of dollars they have paid for wind/solar.
Wouldn't a modern nuclear power plant solve all the concerns assuming we recycled the fuel like they do in France? Just the hot air accumulation from all the phony climate debates have raised the temp a degree or two.
So, for 100% renewables, it should be 100% hydro. Batteries aren't economically feasible. They're a pipe dream. Hydro has a massive built in battery called a resevoir. With what's going on with the economy right now, hydro, natural gas and nuclear is all we can possibly afford. We can't afford those feel-good boutique add-ons that demand such staggering tax payer subsidies. Thank you, Willem Post, for the incredible work you do, laying it all out in black and white. I've lived off grid for 37 years on a tiny 480 watt solar voltaic system with ten six volt batteries. Few would want to live like I do, tho I'm perfectly content doing so. Reality demands real solutions that don't destroy the quality of place and the quality of life we hold so dear.
Richard,
If Mills were to stop reading and mouthing the trash she is being fed by RE idiots masquerading as energy experts, and Would read this article instead, she would be SO MUCH SMARTER.
That does not mean she would change her official tune, but she would know, in detail, that she was lying through her teeth.
I'm concerned Gov Mills is entertaining something similar - she's mentioned battery storage and hydrogen storage a few times in her renewable messages. This would be devastating to Maine's economy. Thank you again for your fine analysis Willem
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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT
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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/
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Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future
"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."
https://pinetreewatch.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/
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