Ford Lost Another $1.2 Billion on EVs During in 3rd Quarter of 2024

Ford Lost Another $1.2 Billion on EVs During in 3rd Quarter of 2024

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From Robert Bryce’s Substack

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FoMoCo lost $58,391 for every EV it sold during the 3rd quarter.

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. Detail from an October 21 report by Morningstar, “Are Electric Vehicles Short-Circuiting? Auto Manufacturers Revise E....”

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The ugly EV news from Ford Motor Company just keeps coming. This afternoon, the company reported that it lost $1.224 billion in its EV business during the third quarter.
In early October, the company reported EV sales “were up 14.8 percent on best-ever sales of 20,962 vehicles.” Thus, simple division shows that the storied automaker lost $58,391 for each EV it sold during the quarter.

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The company’s losses on its EV business, known as Model e, for the first nine months of 2024 total $3.7 billion. For reference, that $3.7 billion loss is equal to the gross profit (Ford calls it EBIT, short for earnings before interest and taxes) it made on Ford Blue, the division that makes internal combustion vehicles.


EBIT for Ford’s ICEV and EV lines for the first three quarters of 2024. Source: Ford Motor Co.

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Alas, these results aren’t surprising.

Ford has been hemorrhaging cash on EVs for the past two years.

It lost $4.7 billion on EVs in 2023 and $2.2 billion on EVs in 2022.

The third-quarter numbers simply show, yet again, that Ford’s leadership has made a colossal blunder.

CEO Jim Farley and his lieutenants didn’t understand what motorists want to buy.

That’s a bad thing, if you’re running one of the world’s biggest car makers.

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FoMoCo’s third-quarter losses are being made public just two months after the company announced it was killing a planned three-row, all-electric SUV.

In August, the company said, “With pricing and margin compression, we’ve made the decision to adjust our product and technology roadmap and industrial footprint to meet our goal of reaching positive EBIT within the first 12 months of launch for all new models.”

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In other words, Ford was warning two months ago, it was having to slash prices on its EVs, and the third quarter would be a stinker. And it was.

Also in August, the company said it was going to move some of its battery production out of foreign factories into US locations so it could qualify for more federal subsidies available under the Inflation Reduction Act.

As I reported here last year, Ford and other automakers are aiming to collect tens of billions of dollars via the 45X tax credit in the IRA for making batteries in the US.

For instance, Ford is building a battery plant in Marshall, Michigan, which is expected to create about 4,200 jobs.

According to Good Jobs First, each job at the new Ford plant will cost taxpayers $3.4 million. At that cost per job, you cannot get much dumber than that!

FoMoCo lost $58,391 for every EV it sold during the 3rd quarter of 2024.

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From Morningstar: “Are Electric Vehicles Short-Circuiting? Auto Manufacturers Revise E....”

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While Ford can claim its sales have increased, the fundamental problems in the EV market have not changed.

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As seen above, the credit rating agency Morningstar, which 13 months ago was forecasting huge growth in EVs, has now turned negative on the sector.

In an October 21 report titled, “Are Electric Vehicles Short-Circuiting? Auto Manufacturers Revise E...,” (registration required), Morningstar said, the major automakers, including VW, Ford, GM, and Mercedes, have delayed their EV plans or slashed planned output, due to weak sales...

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Morningstar noted, while some automakers, including Ford, have cut prices, which has hurt their profitability.

Morningstar also said, with EV sales “to early adopters now seemingly exhausted, EVs are struggling to maintain ongoing sales momentum among mainstream consumers.”

Morningstar then listed the issues that have plagued EVs for decades:

EV ranges remain significantly affected by extreme weather conditions, with cold weather (i.e., below 40 F, potentially decreasing range by about 25%).

Concerns about the EV charging infrastructure are exacerbated by lackluster reliability records of public EV charging stations.

Moreover, charging times, notwithstanding significant developments in recent years, remain considerably longer than the typical time it takes to refuel a conventional ICE vehicle.

Additionally, while EVs have fewer parts than ICE models and typically require less maintenance than ICE vehicles, one-off repairs (notably involving the EV battery pack) can prove inordinately expensive.

Accordingly, across most jurisdictions, insurance premiums for EVs are about 3 times higher than for comparable ICE vehicles, mainly because of the potentially markedly higher repair costs. 

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That paragraph pretty well sums up the EV marketplace, particularly regarding cold weather, charging infrastructure, and charging times. (See this story on Hertz for more on the repair cost issue.)

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All those problems have been evident since the days of Edison.

So why didn’t Ford and the other automakers see this debacle coming?

Was it climate-woke, herd mentality?

Were they responding to government pressure?

If so, why didn’t they push back?

What did they know about EV demand from their own market research?

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Demand for the Ford F-150 Lightning pickup must be so abysmal that the legacy automaker is reportedly planning to shutter the production line for the EV truck in the coming weeks through the end of the year.

This should be no surprise to readers, given that the Tesla Cybertruck has become America's best-selling electric pickup.

"Ford Motor Co. plans to stop building its F-150 Lightning from mid-November through the end of the year amid lower-than-expected demand for the electric pickup," Automotive News' Michael Martinez reported on Thursday morning. 

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At the start of October, John Lawler, Ford's vice chair and CFO, told reporters in a conference call, "We're seeing a tremendous amount of competition," adding, "In fact, S&P Global … said that there are about 143 EVs in the pipeline right now for North America — and most of those are two-row and three-row SUVs."

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Ford scrapped plans to roll out an all-electric three-row SUV in August.

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This year has been doom and gloom for legacy automakers (from the US to Europe) as they aggressively scale back on EV investments.

The reality is that the Biden-Harris administration, lawmakers, and Wall Street, all wearing climate crisis blinders, stoked the most massive green energy bubble that collapsed.

In doing so, legacy automakers who poured billions of dollars into EVs, severely misjudged consumer demand - and now paying the consequences:

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Here’s my prediction: A few years from now, after the automakers have lost billions more due to their misplaced bets on EVs, business schools and analysts will be asking those very same questions.

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Nearly Half Of US EV Drivers Consider Switching Back To Gas Vehicles: McKinsey Study

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More electric vehicle drivers are thinking about switching back to internal combustion engine automobiles, according to new findings from the 2024 McKinsey & Co. Mobility Consumer Global Survey.

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Go Woke, Go Broke: Ford Announces Mind-Boggling $100,000 Loss on Each EV Sold in 2024

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 By Anthony Altomari  

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Affordability, Charging-Infrastructure, & Range-Anxiety Continue To Keep Americans From Embracing EVs

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BY TYLER DURDEN

While the US and the EU look at different ways to add tariffs to China-made electric vehicles to prevent supply disruption, the reality is, overall demand for EVs is starting to peak.  

Such was the topic of a new FT report that looked into why Americans aren't buying more electric vehicles. 

“It’s just not accessible to us at this point in our life,” one couple told FT, who said they were looking for a more affordable vehicle.

They went with a $19,000 Honda Accord after a trade-in, since only five new EV models under $40,000 have hit the market in 2024, the report says. 

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A number of factors have decreased buying of EVs, including among environmentally conscious consumers. Various sources, including FT reported   about the following issues:


1) high EV prices (increase monthly lease payments),

2) high financing interest rates (increase monthly lease payments),

3) short driving range,

4) lack of charging infrastructure,

5) high insurance cost,

6) high on-the-road charging cost 

7) time wasted sitting in vehicle while charging; it takes 5 minutes to fill a gas tank to get about 500 miles of driving, but it take at least 1 to 2 hours to fast-charge a EV battery to get 250 miles of driving

That waste is enormous, if you multiply that time by millions of EVs charged per day.
That waste will make the US worker less productive, further lower his standard of living.

8) high repair and bodyshop cost, and long times for bodyshops to get parts

9) very low resale/trade-in value,

10) low-range during hot and cold weather, especially with a few passengers and some luggage

11) more rapid wear of tires and brakes and expensive replacement cost

12) spending at least "$15000 + labor + hazardous landfill charge" to replace an EV battery in an 8-y-old car

13) worrying about having enough charge, and where to charge, when making a longer trip from A to B

14) worrying about the battery catching fire, while parked in the garage, or on the road

15) inability for an EV to tow almost anything for some distance, without having to recharge along the way

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Everett Eissenstat, a former senior US Trade Representative told FT: “There is no question, this list of woes is an explanation of the very slow EV adoption in the US and in Europe. We are just not producing EVs consumers need at prices plus other costs, they can afford”.  That meager result is after more than 10 years of high subsidies, and Media hype.

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Comment by Willem Post on October 30, 2024 at 2:22pm

Trump was a political neophyte stepping into the lion’s den of the Obama-leaning federal bureaucracy 

Some of his “best” advisors/aides turned out to be not his soul mates, and/or were two-faced.

When his high-level advisors, with their own agendas, could not control him, as they do Biden/Harris, they undermined him.

Trump is a creative developer/builder, a mover and shaker, as was his father, as are his sons, as are Musk, RFK, jr., Ramaswamy, etc.

The US and World needs such people near the top. 

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A prosecutor is either out to get people to build her/his portfolio of cases for career purposes, or to make deals with lawyers to get people not or lightly convicted, for political purposes. 

Harris hitched her body to a 30-y older, married, negro LA mayor to use his political machine to rise in politics in dysfunctional California, which Vermont, etc., are using as a role model.

Harris (dysfunctional “border czar”)/Walz (tampons in boys’ bathrooms) are puppets, as are Biden/Harris, of open-borders fame.

Biden in-the-basement, a 45-y fixture in DC, was finally removed as a broken puppet, because he could not manage a teleprompter, or a press conference, or a debate, already for several years.

The Democrat party elite summarily replaced him with Harris, who has proven herself even less capable than Biden.

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Someone recently asked me why I like Trump.

My answer was, I do not like a lot of things about Trump and Harris, but the Trump/Vance team is the much better choice for America.

However, this election is not about choosing the most likable, or joyful, or celebrity-loved person.

This election is about voting between two vastly different ideologies.

This election is about voting for the country we want to leave our children and grandchildren.

The Trump/Vance team represents that future and has proven that they can deliver.

Some are former Democrats, who became Republicans. All are patriots to the core.

Trump served his country for 4 years without pay.

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When someone says: "I cannot believe you are voting for Trump". I simply reply, “I am voting for the Trump/Vance team.”

I am voting for the First Amendment and Freedom of Speech.

I am voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored.

I am voting for secure borders and LEGAL immigration.

I am voting for election integrity to include mandatory, unforgeable, voter ID, everyone voting on Election Day (make it a National Holiday with Pay), no machines, only hand counting, as is done in almost all European countries, where final results are known within days.

I am voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.

I am voting for the police to be respected and funded once again.

I am voting for law & order and an end to allowing protesters to trespass and burn our cities, destroying innocent small businesses. (Tim Walz)

I am voting for personal responsibility and the end of the revolving door where criminals are being put back on the streets (Kamala Harris)

I am voting for the next Supreme Court Justice(s) to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I am voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end of America’s involvement in foreign conflicts.

I am voting for the Electoral College and for the Republic in which we live.

I am voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect/uphold the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I am voting for keeping our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over the world - to China, Mexico, Canada, Europe, Asia, and other foreign countries.

I am voting for doing away with all of the freebies given to the illegals and not providing for the needs of the American citizens and homeless veterans beset by natural disasters (FEMA has no money, because FEMA spent it to fly and coddle illegals from all over to the US).

I am voting for the military & the veterans who fought for this country

I am voting to keep men out of women's sports and tampons out of boy's bathrooms (stolen-valor Walz).

I am voting for peace in the Middle East.

I am voting to fight against human/child trafficking.

I am voting for Freedom of Religion.

I am voting for increased STEM teaching (science, technology, engineering, mathematics), instead of pseudo-scientific indoctrination of our children.

I am voting for the future of my Country.

I am voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms

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America is the greatest country in the world.

The reason so many want to immigrate here

Why would a cabal of extremist Democrats want to change it, if not for increased federal command/control?

I am voting for the Trump/Vance team.

I am voting for America.

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It is truly amazing how a small, extremist, socialist/communist, Democrat-party cabal, with a weaponized federal government, Corporate Media, and Academia, etc., were able to subvert/brainwash the US people this much, for decades, in the land with the First Amendment. Whistleblowers Assange, Snowdon, etc., surely suffered because of it. 

It shows just how brainwashed most of Americans have been.

Those Americans, be they white, negro, Hispanic, Muslim, Jewish, etc., are finally awakening from their Corporate Media-induced coma.

We need the Trump/Vance team to be elected by a huge landslide, too big to rig, to MAGA the US

We need Vance to take over after Trump for 8 years to MAGA the US

The federal government must not be allowed to engage in any activities not specified in the U.S. Constitution. 

That means no NPR, no US Education Department, no US Endowment for the Arts, no US Radio Free Europe (all are mostly staffed by Democrats), and many other similar activities.

All those activities, if they are to exist, are within the realm and jurisdiction of the Sovereign States.

The federal government would be much smaller, and much more efficient, and spend much less money, with help of RFK, jr., Elon Musk, Ramaswamy, etc.

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Example of High-Level Judicial Overreach: Trump appointed 3 conservative judges to the US Supreme Court

These judges are highly qualified scholars of the history of the US Constitution; one of them teaches it in a Law School.

 

A prior Supreme Court had made an error by ruling, a woman has a legal right to an abortion (Roe vs. Wade).

Based on that ruling more than 30 years ago, various federal laws and rules and regulations were enacted and promulgated.

A national infrastructure of federally-$supported entities, involved with abortion, and other reproductive issues, mostly staffed by Democrats, came into being.

The current Supreme Court determined, nowhere in the US Constitution, and associated documents, etc., is mentioned: 1) abortion and 2) a woman has a legal right to an abortion.

The federal government only has the legal rights ceded to it by the sovereignStates, as reiterated in the US Constitution.

Any legal rights not ceded to the federal government, stay with the States

That means, the people in each State determine the laws, rules and regulations regarding abortion.

The federal government would be involved only if a State violates a civil right, such as discrimination based on race, creed, color, etc., as reiterated in the US Constitution.

 

 

NEWS: Neoen, in western Australia, has just turned on its 219 MW/ 877 MWh Tesla Megapack battery, the largest in western Australia. But this is just stage one! When complete, this $1.1 billion Megapack battery energy storage system will be over twice the size of the storage system pictured below. A massive 560 MW/2,240 MWh battery, $1,100,000,000/2,240,000 kWh = $491/kWh, delivered as AC, late 2024 pricing

 

 

 

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Click here to read how the Maine ratepayer has been sold down the river by the Angus King cabal.

Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT

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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/

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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."

https://pinetreewatch.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/

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