EPA Goes After Coal Generating States in Final Carbon Plan Instead Pushing Wind and Solar

The 2016 budget calls for an end to coal fired electricity and substituting instead Wind and Solar.  This is an extremely expensive way to provide needed capacity and makes electricity extremely expensive for both business and households.  Even the EPA says this will not help the CO2  levels in any way, only cause more jobs to be sent overseas and to states where nuclear and hydro keep the price of electricity down.  Even Gas is a better alternative to renewables.  Read below.

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Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on August 19, 2015 at 11:07am

Intense heating of Oil and Coal releases its energy (hydrogen), without CO² being released to the atmosphere but rather captured with potentials of re use.  Solar furnaces could provide the heat intensities needed to utilize this method of energy extraction, however it is more profitable to milk old technologies that hold known dangers, and make a profit along the way with each gradual introduction of technologies in a step in transition, than going right to the solution which is probably known but withheld from public view and mandated use. With PV at 15-45% efficient depending on the price one wishes to pay, it is not near the almost 100% efficiency of Solar Thermal collection and conversion. 

Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on August 19, 2015 at 10:45am

Indirectly Coal and high carbon content fuel is used in Steel production especially in China though "Converted" to electricity for a better production efficiency. Slowly China is upgrading their old methods to this newer method of steel production. But in order to produce their future capabilities they need carbon intensive high energy content fuels to get there. We could have done this back when we had the global market on steel production but corporate arrogance for lower overhead costs tweaked the rules to the point of a near collapse with only those that made the transitions on a graduated level to survive. 

Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on August 19, 2015 at 10:34am

This reduction of Carbon intensive fuel, mostly coal [though Wood in homes where available and BioMass (though acceptable as renewable) both equal to coal in CO² though not other toxins ] is of value to this country as Global CARBON CREDITS. Like the PTC's and REC's they are market traded. The Carbon Credits are traded for U.S. Debt to other nations, particularly China, so that they can industrialize by burning the high energy output fuels such as Coal, and the Nasty Oil of the Tar Sands and others that contain the Sulphur and other energy containing toxins. Sulphur contains 8% of the energy in Oils and Coal. This is what we remove to avoid acid rain destruction or trade to other nations since our prohibition of Sulfur content in our burnable fuel products, yet China buys this along with our Carbon Reduction Credits to allow them to increase their carbon emissions. This is called the Global Carbon Balance of the Corporate world. The REC's provide the same tradeoff within our national grids, Carbon Credits internal to our nation. Aka the Green Coal. 

Comment by Kathy Sherman on August 18, 2015 at 11:59pm
Link correction:
http://canadafreepress.com/article/74594. (Missing "a")

I wish they would stop comparing just residential rates because, for example, the industrial rate in Utah is way cheap, and the EPA rule is going to have a big impact on the new NSA facility's $18 million per year electric bill. NSA located to Utah for the cheap rates of coal generation.

All the data-intensive governmental branches need to figure out the cost to them, and I think the article underestimates the rate impact badly. It very likely will exceed the loss of tax revenue from the PTC even without extension. Not to mention, someone should figure out what this scheme has been doing to our trade deficit since a great deal of the capitol expense is for non-domestic turbines (and panels).

OBM get busy - it might save some court time.

I am no fan of coal, and it is a pretty irrelevant issue in New England. We only burn coal for reliability.

New England no longer generates much from coal (or oil), but we did this afternoon as wind was at 0%; PV contributed a tiny bit - it doesn't usually even register.

Electric rates (including the new transmission EDPR wants to build for Number Nine) will not go down here. Our only hope is that FERC rules make Connecticut pay for it all. Iberdrola/CMP and Emera may want to import more from Canadian Maritimes. I am not sure why they can't do that now. But that is the fallacy of these rules by state - we are all part of a grid.

So compare wholesale price; then add PTC and RECs for non-existent "environmental benefits". Right there you get the top price for wholesale in the ISO-NE grid.

And I ask what other combustion of coal goes on for industry rather than electricity. Is it still used to make steel?

 

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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT

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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/

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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."

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