In your area, do you have Town Boards, Planning Boards or Zoning Boards of Appeal?  In Stafford, NY, though one of the problems the Company who wanted to build Wind Turbines here faced was that they really didn't have enough wind to make it feasable.  BUT, we did get a vote, that if they wanted to build the turbines here, they would be TAXED at their full assessed value---No Payment in-Lieu of Taxes would be accepted.

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Payment in Lieu of Taxes is usually reserved for non-profits like hospitals as a contribution to using municipal services.  This is a real scam for any wind developer to try to mitigate or avoid taxation.  It is galling for these thieves to try to get local welfare on top of the largesse from taxpayer subsidies and other tax advantages that have been granted by the federal government.

 

Since you are curious, here in Maine, we run the gamut from towns that have planning boards, zoning boards, appeals boards for planning or zoning decisions right down to unorganized territories where the residents have no local control.  The wind developers take advantage everywhere they can!  A common ploy regarding taxes is to convince the towns or the counties to enact a "Tax Increment Financing" agreement (TIF) whereby the towns or counties can shelter the new valuation from the state's assessment and at the same time rebate back to the wind developer 50% or more of the property tax.  First Wind has never done a Maine development without TIF and they use it as a tool to prey on revenue-challenged rural communities.

 

Good that you got to vote.  Maintaining local control is important, as three dozen local communities in Maine have enacted protective wind ordinances, one of the few bright spots where the citizens actually get their say about wind development!

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"They really didn't have enough wind to make it feasible" This is true of almost all inland wind farm locations. Good for the voters of Stafford, NY for requiring payment of taxes at full value, period. When these thing are required to pay for themselves, the promoters will go away and try into another schem.....uh... business. 

Harrison Roper  Houlton, ME 

Harrison:  It didn't get that far (a citizen's vote).  The Town Board made that decision AFTER a study committee did a full review of the pros and cons of Wind Turbines--and how they would benefit "anybody".  It appeared, that just to be safe, and not prohibit the turbines outright, they would be allowed o-n-l-y if the corporations  were up to supporting their premise of cheap power and not on the backs of the town's citizens.  But all too often, we see where, in our area, board members have a conflit that they won't own up to--a conflict of having signed a contract with the corporation to allow turbines on their land.  (That's Priviledged information, you see and the contract always has a "confidentiality" clause in it.)


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"They really didn't have enough wind to make it feasible" This is true of almost all inland wind farm locations. Good for the voters of Stafford, NY for requiring payment of taxes at full value, period. When these thing are required to pay for themselves, the promoters will go away and try into another schem.....uh... business. 

Harrison Roper  Houlton, ME 

Come on, Harry, say what's on your mind.  These are schemes and scams!  The wind industry has not just put lipstick on a pig, they have ladened it with a whole make up kit of deceit and drowned it with "green" cologne!  The sad thing is how many people think its beautiful.

Brad:   I agree with you.  Anyone who has studied the turbine projects are well aware of what is going on, but it is the "I wish, I wish, and if I wish hard enough Turbines do their job and make cheap power, BUT they never give out the facts and figures.  All corporations know their balance sheet.  They know what works, but their "I wish, I wish" that people WILL believe turbines work-- won't stand up the the smell test.  Turbines are schemes and scams and it starts when the landowner falls for the easy "signing bonus" that in effect holds their property in perpetuity under that contract.  Corporate Greed & Landowner Greed under the label of "GREEN!!!" 

Brad Blake said:

Come on, Harry, say what's on your mind.  These are schemes and scams!  The wind industry has not just put lipstick on a pig, they have ladened it with a whole make up kit of deceit and drowned it with "green" cologne!  The sad thing is how many people think its beautiful.

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