This is How Senseless Policy is Conceived: "Power Hour"

It makes people feel good, like they're doing something to save the planet.  But let's assume that this gathering will be devoid of science and scientists. Let's assume that uneducated ideologues will populate these "Power Hours" and propose all sorts of flakey ideas which will eventually become policy.  We suggest that GPCOG insist that engineering experts attend all of these meetings. 

"Reducing energy..."    What does that mean?

 

 


The Greater Portland Council of Goverments would like to invite you to participate in a Power Hour to come up with ideas, prioritize actions and identify barriers to reducing energy, costs and greenhouse gas emissions in Cumberland County. The ideas gathered from Power Hours will form the foundation of a Cumberland County energy and climate plan, which will inform the ways in which municipalities, their communities and the private sector conserve, generate, use and diversify energy in the County.  It will focus on priority measures to reduce energy, greenhouse gas emissions and costs 17% by 2017.

 

1/27/11 – Power Hour

When: Thursday, January 27, 3-4:30 pm

Where: GPCOG office, 68 Marginal Way, Portland, ME – 4th floor

To RSVP and Register: the registration page is at http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1224377145.

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Comment by Dan McKay on January 26, 2011 at 12:06pm

Paying for wind:

Comment by Ron Huber on January 26, 2011 at 11:59am

"Wading into the climate change debate" is appropriate. The oceans have enormous influence over climate.  Sticking windmills "offshore" as if it were a uniform sort of  "away", is not a good idea.

Take a look at the 3 pictures on this page You will see that it is a logically dynamic system, each part geographically and ecologically different. I am hoping I can find someone to combine them into a single graphic. (I have larger originals to use for that purpose)

Comment by Dan McKay on January 26, 2011 at 8:56am
Very true, Art. The wind people would have us believe 1 KW of wind produced power displaces 1 KW of carbon emitting fossil fuel power. But, is this 1 KW of wind produced power put to use in an efficient manner and is the next 1KW assured to be there.
Comment by Art Brigades on January 26, 2011 at 8:47am
We seldom wade into the climate change debate. But we agree that IF the world's undeniably upward trend in CO2 emissions is a problem, grid-scale wind power undeniably does not solve it, particularly in Maine.
Comment by Jim Hutzler on January 26, 2011 at 7:45am

There are many of us that are not science deniers that want to stop the foolish and destructive wind farm menace. It does not serve our effort well to dumb down the "Citizens' Task Force on Wind Power - Maine" with mindless propaganda, especially involving the issue of global warming. Regardless of your "beliefs", global warming or not, the facts bear witness that wind farms in Maine are useless and horribly damaging to our state, it's environment, it's people, and the companies and politicians promoting wind farms are corrupt. Let's stick to the facts, please! Not the "I Hate Al Gore" stuff that would leave render this "Task Force" irrelevant.

Comment by Brad Blake on January 25, 2011 at 10:02pm
I wish I didn't have unbreakable commitments at work Thursday.  I would love to go to a meeting like that and maniacally promote industrial wind projects all over Cumberland County.  Just to see the reaction.  The crowd that doesn't want any new building in Portland's urban core to be more than 100 feet high because it would be "too tall" or "out of scale" are happy to condemn Maine's mountaintops to being blasted away to erect 400 foot industrial wind turbines.  Hypocrites all!
Comment by Ron Huber on January 25, 2011 at 9:17pm

* Sounds like a Sierra Club initiative to me: meaningless, but mediagenic.

* If these are kingdom of the blind-type power hours, let's send in the one-eyeds and rule 'em.

*Reducing energy probably meant Reducing energy consumption.

 

* If the demand for artificially diverted energy goes down, then  the stimulus to produce it does too, one hopes.

 

Comment by Long Islander on January 25, 2011 at 1:06pm

Maybe only Nissan Leafs can be allowed to park on Commercial Street. Maybe the parking meters can give those cars quarters. That way, the people in the pickup trucks and SUV's can drive around that much longer looking for parking spots. I like it.

Comment by Dan McKay on January 25, 2011 at 11:59am
Independent engineers with no connection to a particular company promoting their expertise or product.

Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."

https://pinetreewatch.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/

 

Maine as Third World Country:

CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power

 

Click here to read how the Maine ratepayer has been sold down the river by the Angus King cabal.

Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT

******** IF LINKS BELOW DON'T WORK, GOOGLE THEM*********

(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/

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