Heat pumps won’t work in older houses, warns Bosch

Heat pumps won’t work in old homes, warns Bosch

Another nail in the coffin!

 

Heat pumps will not work for Britain’s Victorian houses, one of the largest makers of the devices has warned.

Vonjy Rajakoba, managing director of Bosch UK, told The Telegraph that heat pumps did not make sense for older homes that lack extensive insulation or were not detached.

Mr Rajakoba said: “At low temperature you need well insulated homes, you also need space for heat pumps for the external unit and also the tank, so you need to have the sort of home which is adequate around the heat pumps.

“We think that in the UK, with the fleet of Victorian houses or period houses and so on, hydrogen, or in the interim hydrogen-ready boilers, are the solution.”

Mr Rajakoba’s comments will stoke doubts about the current government "net zero" strategy, given Britain’s ageing housing stock. Almost two fifths of private homes were built before 1945, according to government figures.

Mass adoption of heat pumps is a key plank of Britain’s plan to reach “net zero” carbon emissions by 2050.

The electric devices raise the temperature in people’s homes by pumping compressed air from outside to raise the temperature indoors. The Government wants to see 600,000 heat pumps installed each year by 2028, compared to around 35,000 today.

However, a House of Lords committee claimed in February that using hydrogen to heat homes was “not a serious option”, citing concerns about whether the gas could be produced at scale and cheaply enough. The report urged the Government to instead focus solely on heat pumps.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/03/14/heat-pumps-wont-wor...

So we go around in circles again. Heat pumps are useless, so go for hydrogen, scream Bosch. But hydrogen won’t work, so go for heat pumps say the House of Lords.

I’ve got a better idea – just stick with what does work, propane, oil and natural gas boilers.

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Comment by Willem Post on March 16, 2023 at 6:25pm

Jonathan Baker of Danville, writes this from his own experience:

“My household recently decided to be good citizens and invest in heat pumps to move away from dirty and expensive heating oil. Unfortunately, the economics are not good.

“We were charged $7,500 for the installation of a mini split [heat pump] unit rated at 1.8 ton. You need around 3 tons for a 2,000-square-foot home, so we had to get two [units].

“The good news is the units did reduce our oil usage quite a bit, probably 75 to 80 percent. However, our monthly electricity bill increased by over $300 dollars! With the astronomical installation costs, we won’t break even on these units until long after our kids have graduated from college in 17 years.

“This almost completely offsets the heating oil savings, and gives you an idea of how incredibly expensive this effort will be and also why the power companies are so eager to give you an “incentive” to install heat pumps. They will make that money back within six months.”

“You may be keen on helping the environment, but just be aware it takes a lot of green to go “green.” Don’t look down on others who can’t afford to transition away from fossil fuels

Thank you, Mr. Baker.

Mr. Baker made a major mistake.

He operated his heat pumps at less than 10 to 15F

Below those temperatures, heat pumps require a lot of electricity (GMP loves that part) to provide a certain quantity of Btu/h, at exactly the same time your house requires a lot of Btu/h, because it is so cold outside

He should have operated his oil-fired furnace at these low temperatures, because that would be less costly per hour

Some people keep their houses at 65F or lower, to maximize their savings from heat pumps, and put up with the decrease of comfort level, just so they can brag about how much energy cost they saved.

The alternative is to lower the temperature even more, to say 55F, and wrap yourself in a blanket. It is far less costly than heating “this olde house”

HYPOCRACY IN SPADES

The US is so rich in natural gas, it exports the most liquified natural gas, LNG, in the world, so hundreds of other people are burning it.

However, in its unfathomable wisdom, Vermont’s government does not allow Vermonters to burn it, unless they pay a government-imposed extortion/tax/fee/surcharge, which it claims it will use to "save the world".

Vermont’s area is less than 0.01% of the World’s total area, which is 70% water.

I think, the Legislators have a boxful of screws loose, but they have not noticed, because they get their "advice/talking-points from self-serving, special interests, which have many clever, high-paid lobbyists in Montpelier, because it pays for these special interests to get subsidies, and for the Legislators to get "campaign contributions", aka bribes, for doing CONSTITUENT SERVICE

Comment by Willem Post on March 16, 2023 at 6:14pm

Hydrogen, plus infrastructure, would be far more costly than heat pumps

Comment by Dan McKay on March 16, 2023 at 5:01pm

Or a good, old cranking, cherry red wood stove with the windows open on a frigid snowy night.

 

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