US Could Take Over Ukraine's Nuclear Plants To 'Protect' Them: Trump Told Zelensky
US Could Take Over Ukraine's Nuclear Plants To 'Protect' Them: Trump Told Zelensky
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BY TYLER DURDEN
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In their phone call on Wednesday, President Trump proposed to President Zelensky that the United States take over Ukraine's nuclear power plants.
"President Trump also discussed Ukraine’s electrical supply and nuclear power plants," Secretary of State Rubio and National Security Adviser Waltz said of the call summary.
Trump said that "the United States could be very helpful in running those plants with its electricity and utility expertise," the summary added, as it was pitched that US ownership would offer "the best protection" for Ukrainian energy infrastructure.
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Zelensky's office responded that Ukraine is willing to agree to a 30-day halt on hitting Russia's energy infrastructure, after Putin agreed.
"Ending strikes on energy infrastructure could be the first step toward fully ending the war and ensuring security.
Zelenskyy supported this step, and Ukraine confirmed its readiness to implement it," the readout from the Ukrainian side said.
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No specific mention was made of which nuclear facilities the plan might involve, but Zelensky said later the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in southern Ukraine was discussed.
It has been under control of Russia for three years, during which it has not produced any electricity, because of Ukraine’ attacks.
That plant, with six about 45-y-old, Russian VVER-950 MW units, near the end of their useful service life, and with other Russian equipment, is situated on the left bank of the Dnieper River, which ultimately flows into the Black Sea. The river at that point is about 1000 yards wide.
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The Ukraine Armed Forces, located across the river in the province of Zaporizhzhia, on the right bank, has sent high-speed UK-supplied boats, with UK-trained, special services troops to conquer the plant from the Russians, but each time were beaten back.
The UAF has fired artillery shells and drones across the river to bomb various auxiliary systems of the plant, such as:
1) the spent-fuel storage system, which is radioactive
2) the switchyard which connects the plant to the grid system,
3) the reactor cooling water system pumps; fortunately, all nuclear plants have diesel-powered emergency generators.
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Ukraine does not want the US to own the Zaporizhzhia plant, but has asked the US to put up the enormous amount of capital required to refurbish the plant to bring it "up to the latest codes". That would cost $billions.
The US would be a real sucker, if it fell for this Ukraine ploy!
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The 5700 MW plant was producing 5700 MW x 8766 h/y x CF, 0.568 = 29.3 Billion kWh/y, per Wikipedia, prior to the US instigated/financed/organized Coup d'Etat in Kiev in 2014.
BTW, the fleet of US nuclear plants have a CF of about 0.81, which means the Ukraine plant has lots of downtime/poor reliability; A PIG IN A POKE
The least-costly way to restore the plant to the latest codes is with Russian equipment
Plant director Chernichyuk stated, “No one but Russia should operate the plant”
Ukraine has four nuclear plants and has control of three of them, all with Russian reactors and with other Russian equipment.
Those three likely also are PIGS IN A POKE.
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Zelensky said:
Whether US control over the plant could serve as part of a peace plan was a “question of whether we are able to recover it from Russia, upgrade it, and restart operations”, Zelenskyy added.
Zelensky said he was exploring with Washington whether “there could be an understanding with Russia that the US could recover the plant from Russia.
Zelensky is trying to cajole/lure Trump into making a deal with Putin, to get control of the plant.
Putin is not biting, because he wants permanent peace and normal relations, after the root causes of the conflict are eliminated
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Trump hailed the talks with Zelensky as "very good" and that peace talks are "very much on track."
However, there doesn't appear to have been much new momentum on the controversial minerals deal that purportedly would protect Ukraine
Trump’snuclear power proposal has a similar intent.
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But on Thursday, Zelensky backtracked by saying of Trump's proposal that he "will not discuss" US ownership of Ukraine's nuclear power plants with the US.
Thus, after discussing the idea with his advisors, Kiev has quickly rejected it.
Ukraine has also not signed on to the minerals deal, which has floundered.
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Kiev likely is keeping those items in reserve for many years of $support from France and England, who want to keep the conflict going for as long as it takes, with a “coalition of the willing”.
France and the UK offered their nuclear arsenals and “boots on the ground and planes in the air” to protect Ukraine and Europe
The UK even signed 100-y defense/assistance pact with Ukraine, which includes:
1) several $Billion of UK aid each year till 2030,
2) access to Russian ports on the Azov Sea and to Ukrainian ports on the Black Sea,
3) a rare-metal minerals mining agreement.
The US and Ukraine delegations will soon meet in Saudi Arabia again, in parallel to the US-Russia delegations meeting.
Of talks with Moscow, Waltz has said, "We agreed our technical teams would meet in Riyadh in the coming days to focus on implementing and expanding the partial ceasefire President Trump secured from Russia."
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The US has confirmed it will continue sharing defensive intelligence with Ukraine, and that Trump has agreed to work with Zelensky on his request for more air defenses, i.e., Patriot systems, to protect Ukraine, using US defensive intelligence.
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One war observer and pundit questioned on X:
"A US-Ukraine rare-earth metals agreement appears off the table, because Ukraine nixed it
The US owning Ukraine’s nuclear power plants appears also off the table, because Ukraine nixed it.
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It looks like, the US must commit to pay $billions to Ukraine for years for a chance to play.
As of now, the UK and Ukraine have outplayed the US.
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Ukraine Resists Peace, Wants to Continue Fighting
By Willem Post
The neo-NAZI, Bandera-adoring Nationalists want to keep fighting, and get all land back from Russia, and restart the genocide of ethnic Russians in East Ukraine.
That likely would mean losing more land, more destruction, and about 25,000 killed and seriously wounded per week on both sides. That would mean 18-year-old recruits, with minimal training, to the front lines.
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That would mean NATO “boots on the ground and planes in the air”, if it were up to the UK and its “Coalition of the Willing”, with US battlefield awareness systems as a “backstop”, orchestrating it all behind the scenes. WW3, anyone?
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NOTE: Battlefield awareness, i.e., “backstop”, involves US satellites and US spy planes to feed battlefield information to the Ukraine Armed Forces. Musk’s satellite-based STAR link plays a major role spreading battlefield information
Advanced artillery systems, provided by the US, UK and France, are operated by personnel of those countries, who use that information to hit targets in Russia. WW3 anyone?
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Europe is in poor shape. It has a decreasing GDP, stagnant real wages, major civil unrest, and tens of millions of incompatible, subversive, walk-ins, who would rather undermine, instead of fight for traditional European values and culture.
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/government-advisor-war...
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Euro elites, having lost the wind/solar “climate war”, need a new war to distract and unify the people.
Euro elites doing Russo-phobic, saber rattling to aid Ukraine is empty posturing, without the US “backstop”
With all that, Russia, with a growing GDP, despite sanctions, a unified people, would just roll over and play dead?
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Trump would be an idiot to agree to prolonging the Russia-Ukraine conflict with the US “backstop”, as it would be a major drain on US finances for years, and a huge distraction regarding MAGA.
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However, the Deep State and in Congress, most Democrats and some Republicans would love it.
Musk is getting close to divulge how many of these Members of Congress are outperforming investment professionals on Wall Street. They have no problem defending/financing corrupt Ukraine, an undemocratic state, where:
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1) Elections were canceled (also in Rumania), or stolen (also in Moldova),
2) Russian Orthodox Churches were shut down,
3) Political opponents were silenced/tortured/killed,
4) The USAID-subsidized media were put under total government control.
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Germany, the UK, France, etc., are in Chaotic De-growth Mode
Their Euro elites are forcing populations to put up with, and pay for, tens of millions of unvetted walks-ins, who make minimal contributions, cause maximal pain, crime and chaos, all while sucking from the government tit.
Spending more on defense and Net-Zero green stuff, will be accelerating de-growth
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The woke elites in Europe and the US are pre-maturely closing, already-paid-for, in-good-working-order nuclear plants.
The woke elites have banned 1) oil and gas fracking projects, 2) gas/oil pipelines, 3) gas/oil storage systems near power plants, and 4) new energy exploration projects, as part of "leaving it in the ground"
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The very important results of DOGE are not reported by the leftist, USAID-subsidized, Corporate Media, but the criticisms of DOGE are reported 24/7/365.
And so, the people in New England, the US and Europe are permanently kept in the dark, already for at least 5 decades, or more.
The Social-Media, by gaining eyeballs, is quickly ending the Corporate-Media monopoly, which is losing eyeballs.
But the Euro elites are hell-bent to put them in straight-jackets ASAP
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Comment by Willem Post on March 23, 2025 at 2:15pm
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NUCLEAR PLANTS TOO EXPENSIVE?
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/nuclear-plants-too-exp...
By Willem Post
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In France, the turnkey cost of the 1,600 MW Flamanville plant was $13.7 billion, or $8,563/installed MW
Plants built by Russia, China and South Korea are about $5,500/installed MW
Expensive nuclear plant building is strictly a "rules-based" Western thing.
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Nuclear Plants by Russia
According to the IAEA, during the first half of 2023, a total of 407 nuclear reactors are in operation at power plants across the world, with a total capacity at about 370,000 MW
Nuclear was 2546 TWh, or 9.2%, of world electricity production in 2022
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/batteries-in-new-england
Rosatom, a Russian Company, is building more nuclear reactors than any other country in the world, according to data from the Power Reactor Information System of the International Atomic Energy Agency, IAEA.
The data show, a total of 58 large-scale nuclear power reactors are currently under construction worldwide, of which 23 are being built by Russia.
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In Egypt, 4 reactors, each 1,200 MW = 4,800 MW for $28.75 billion, or about $5,990/kW,
As per a bilateral agreement, signed in 2015, approximately 85% of it is financed by Russia, and to be paid for by Egypt under a 22-year loan with an interest rate of 3%.
That cost is at least 40% less than US/UK/EU.
In Turkey, 4 reactors, each 1,200 MW = 4,800 MW for $20 billion, or about $4,200/kW, entirely financed by Russia. The plant will be owned and operated by Rosatom
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In India, 6 VVER-1000 reactors, each 1,000 MW = 6,000 MW at the Kudankulam Nuclear Power Plant.
Capital cost about $15 billion. Units 1, 2, 3 and 4 are in operation, units 5 and 6 are being constructed
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In Iran, Rosatom started site preparation for a nuclear power plant at the Bushehr site.
Phase 1: Unit 1 went on line in 2012.
Phase 2: 2 VVER-1000 units, each 1050 Mwe. Construction started March 2017. Units 2 and 3 to be completed in 2024 and 2026.
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In Bangladesh: 2 VVER-1200 reactors = 2400 MW at the Rooppur Power Station
Capital cost $12.65 billion is 90% funded by a loan from the Russian government. The two units generating 2400 MW are planned to be operational in 2024 and 2025. Rosatom will operate the units for the first year before handing over to Bangladeshi operators. Russia will supply the nuclear fuel and take back and reprocess spent nuclear fuel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooppur_Nuclear_Power_Plant
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Russia is the only country with nuclear powered ice breakers.
The biggest ones steadily go through 7 METERS of ice.
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Rosatom, created in 2007 by combining several Russian companies, usually provides full service during the entire project life, such as training, new fuel bundles, refueling, waste processing and waste storage in Russia, etc., because the various countries likely do not have the required systems and infrastructures
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Remember, these nuclear plants reliably produce steady electricity, at reasonable cost/kWh, and have near-zero CO2 emissions
They have about 0.90 capacity factors, and last 60 to 80 years
Nuclear does not need counteracting plants. They can be designed as load-following, as some are in France
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Wind: Offshore wind systems produce variable, unreliable power, at very high cost/kWh, and are far from CO2-free, on a mine-to-hazardous landfill basis.
They have lifetime capacity factors, on average, of about 0.40; about 0.45 in very windy placesThey last about 20 to 25 years in a salt water environment
They require: 1) a fleet of quick-reacting power plants to counteract the up/down wind outputs, on a less-than-minute-by-minute basis, 24/7/365, 2) major expansion/reinforcement of electric grids to connect the wind systems to load centers, 3) a lot of land and sea area, 4) curtailment payments, i.e., pay owners for what they could have produced.
Major Competitors: Rosatom’s direct competitors, according to PRIS data, are three Chinese companies: CNNC, CSPI and CGN.
They are building 22 reactors, but it should be noted, they are being built primarily inside China, and the Chinese partners are building five of them together with Rosatom.American and European companies are lagging behind Rosatom, by a wide margin,” Alexander Uvarov, a director at the Atom-info Center and editor-in-chief at the atominfo.ru website, told TASS.
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UK, GERMANY AND NORWAY
Norway gets 90% from hydro reservoir plants and 10% from west coast windmills.
Because of long distances, there is little connection between the north and south grid.
Any draw by the UK during W/S underproduction affects the south grid.
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The grid is pumped by generators to a voltage with 50-cycle electromagnetic waves which travel at near the speed of light. Electrons do not travel. They just vibrate at 50 Hz
Any UK underproduction, resulting in voltage drops, is immediately sensed about 800 miles away, and compensated for, by automatically opening the water valves to hydro turbines in Norway.
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A few years ago, during a W/S lull, Norway oversupplied Germany and the UK, which resulted in much higher wholesale prices in the south grid, too low water levels in reservoirs, rationing, aka blackouts/brownouts, and lots of Norwegians with mandated EVs and mandated heat pumps being peed off.
.This time the W/S lull happened again, and, just like that, the ruling-party government fell. A new ruling-party government was installed, which may, or may not, remedy the situation. INSTANT DEMOCRACY.
We should have it in the US, instead of endless lying, obfuscation, grandstanding, obstruction, etc., for up to 4 years, or, God forbid, 8 years
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NOTE: I lived in Norway for 3 years. My brother-in-law, a managing director, worked at Norsk Hydro, which provides almost all hydro power in Norway. We talk shop. He thinks the nutcases in Oslo should be exiled to Nova Zembla.
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Europe’s elites have been using the Paris COP Agreements to get African countries to install highly subsidized, weather-dependent wind and solar systems provided by Europe.
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They are paid for with onerous, long-term loans from the World Bank/IMF, and European banks, to keep these countries in colonial-style bondage.
These countries pay for the onerous loans with their valuable minerals.
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Europe loved Biden, because his clique of handlers enabled Europe to do the same thing to the US, to ensure the US would have high energy costs/kWh, and would be uncompetitive in world markets.
All that to protect Europe’s $10 trillion of investments in the US, and its decades of trade surpluses.
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That game plan came to a screeching halt when the idiotic, unpatriotic, illegally installed, on-autopen-Biden regime ended, and Trump took over.
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Now, Trump and Co is trying to undo the damage of decades of woke, leftist Democrat malfeasance, waste, fraud and abuse, started and perfected under the woke, okie-dokie Obama regime..
USAID was created by an Executive Order signed by John F. Kennedy.
Obama was using USAID to pretend to send ‘Aid’ overseas, but was laundering it to train “Rent-a-Riots” instead.
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/excerpt-from-trump-s-s...
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Today, the United Financial Elite (UFE) governs their “Rules-Based” world.
The UFE moves its money where profits can extracted.
In case of wars, the UFE will sell weapons, etc., to both sidesThe UFE mirrors the old aristocracy. They gather packs of vassals to keep the common people in check for them.
There is even a Young Leaders training center for it in upscale, jet-set Davos.
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In return, these vassals enjoy minor privileges. Just like their noble predecessors, the elites often quarrel among themselves, sometimes escalating into wars. No one seems to object to this.
The killed victims do not protest, and the survivors are brainwashed to blame the opposing side for their miseries.
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The elites do not care who among their ranks defeats the other, as long as large-scale capital ownership is not endangered.
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The general public is usually kept unaware of these internal conflicts within the UFE, as they occur behind the scenes.
In case “stuff” comes out, the Corporate Media, in service of the UFE, will use its enormous foghorn to “shape the narrative”
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For the UFE as a whole, it is no different from the aristocrats of old. Except that now, it is not just landownership that is untouchable, but all forms of property.
Terrorism on Teslas will be punished with long jail terms in El Salvador.
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How the elites divide the loot is fought out among themselves; the commoners have no say in the matter and only serve to perish during their elite tournaments.
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Comment by Thinklike A. Mountain on March 22, 2025 at 9:35am
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Janet Mills Just Folded Like A Cheap Lawn Chair
https://hotair.com/generalissimo/2025/03/21/americas-toughest-gover...
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REVEALED: Chief Justice John Roberts Caught in Secretive, Invite-Only Club of Elite Judges and Lawyers That Includes James Boasberg, Beryl Howell, Amit Mehta and Ketanji Brown Jackson
John Roberts has been Chief Justice of the Supreme Court since September 2005. What in the world is he doing fraternizing in a secret group with far-left colleagues?This is a shocking development.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/revealed-chief-justice-joh...
Maine as Third World Country:
CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power
Click here to read how the Maine ratepayer has been sold down the river by the Angus King cabal.
Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT
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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/
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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law
Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future
"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."
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