The Lies Continue.....Maine , a very politically dirty little state
After years of dealing with the wind issue, I can say with sadness that Maine is a very dirty little state, politically.
It is a shame how unctuous political elites have manipulated the legislative process as it concerns the wind scam.
Governor LePage should immediately place a halt to all further wind projects until detailed cost/benefit analysis is undertaken of the wind industry in Maine.
In addition , an ethical "audit" should be initiated by the administration to review the process of law (or lack of it ) that has created the outrageous breaches to constitutional citizen rights that has occurred , as created by the fatally flawed expedited Wind Bill of 2008, Pl-661.
Let is also be known that Naomi Shalit's expose of 1/7/2015 is only the tip of the iceberg as it relates to corruption of law and process by the wind scoundrels in Maine.
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Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on January 17, 2015 at 7:43pm
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A Rethink..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz_L6KuqvFI
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It is, I suppose, since it is the Corporate Religion symbolized by $$$, and I do support Wind, when the technology brings it to its most efficiency. One example is FACT: Resistive Heating (Electric Heat) It is 100% efficient in that what heat is produced is used, however it is only 35% efficient in what electricity it uses. Wind is NOT efficient "yet". But still does not belong on land, occupying needed land best used for other purposes. 65% of their $ on their electric bill is wasted.... All sciences prove it. Just think of how many Greenie burgers they waste, and give to the stockholders for their Non Green SUV's and Corporate Jets. Their Money talks the fastest. Take it away from them, they begin to think. Point out how expensive this Green energy is, if not utilized with efficiency technology. Having done research for Rep Norman Higgins, who will sit on the EUT has become very interested in these science facts. He is Anti-Wind from the funding aspect, such as tax incentives, and becoming more interested in how technology can reduce our costs in Maine. He realizes that these are Not for the benefit of Maine and hopes to prevent or get rid of them. We need to educate the decision makers first. We Can do wind and solar, but on a local scale which is much more efficient. This is where incentives should be placed, creating independence from the corporate grid. FACT: "More energy from the sun falls upon the earth in 1 Hour, than the world uses in a year" Now to store it and efficiently utilize it without sacrificing our land and health.
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Comment by Penny Gray on January 17, 2015 at 5:34pm
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Setting aside the politics and the corruption behind industrial wind and dealing just with trying to "educate" fellow citizens, this issue is stacking science against religion. People who passionately support wind power regard these enormous machines as religious icons. They are "symbols of what we should be doing to save the planet". I've made very little progress talking to people who have been successfully "green washed". Even the argument that they aren't putting out a fraction of their promised energy holds no weight because that doesn't matter. They are symbols of what we should be doing. How do we get around this? How do we make people start thinking for themselves?
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The sciences which provide fact, do not support Wind on this scale. We need to educate first those that control the purse strings and write the laws. Unfortunately most do not stay long enough or stay interested long enough to make a difference. Citizen Advisory Boards, that are volunteer and can stay in place, from one legislative session to another providing the proper evaluations of facts and sciences is needed. They have no vote on the outcome of law directly or financing so buying them would be pointless as facts and science would not support any mis-information they may put forth.
We need to get the information out to the public at large, Factual and Scientific. Right now Wind is at a 1:19 ratio vs Hydro at a 1:100 ratio of investment vs output. Solar is near the bottom as of 2012. Only Ethanol is worse at 1:2.5 I may be old, I may be ill, but I plan to be that "nasty little troll" hiding under the bridge that pops out with the truth that bursts the bubble of false dreams. I want them to know that I am here, without fear. Thanks for your contributions Paula, I always welcome a new perspective.
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ERIC, it has been my misfortune to have tried to have reasoned debate with a lot of witless persons over the last five years. The result has been to be referred to in public town meetings as a 'manipulator' and in anonymous posts as 'a nasty little troll'. And my husband labeled a 'terrorist'. And he doesn't even attend meetings. We're old and ill and poor. How dangerous we are because we think for ourselves and speak our minds and claim our constitutional right and civic obligation to do so. What if it's contagious and others start thinking and speaking and even ACTING to end this shameful injustice being purpetrated here in Maine? Knowledge is power. Can it be more powerful than the machinations of the monied interests and their political greedy cohorts? From the pushback I'm thinking knowledge has recently scored some telling blows. Individuals who are fighting the wind scam come from all walks of life and all political temperaments. They're united by common values: protection of their private property from intrusive and detrimental development; protection of their personal health from adverse intrusion into the eco-space they inhabit; and protection of the natural environment from permanent large scale destruction of the landscape and significant long-term affects on the bio-system of the area. Those are values which cross a lot of social and political divides and can unite citizens - and legislators - to act to restore a balanced constraint on this harmful development. Wind energy costs far outweigh the benefits. It is a false solution to whatever problem it has been advanced to address. That is the truth and that truth is getting into the public discourse. Our job is to keep up the effort to educate and inform until there are resources in place to successfully corral those monied and political allies foisting this scam on our land and our people.
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Comment by Martha thacker on January 17, 2015 at 1:11pm
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Penny Gray...excellent questions about lease agreements. I am sure they are confidential, but Mainers talk.
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I have to laugh, sadly, that our American Revolution was started for the purpose of freeing Corporations from the financial tyranny of Europe. (Mainly England) They stirred the people into participating with their lives in the balance. Immediately after success, they re-wrote the constitutions of all states with a central federal constitution geared toward business and interstate commerce. Established the U.S. Supreme Court to settle States law and Interstate corporation differences. We still today fight our wars to keep corporations free, while living day to day of the scraps they allow us to have. Corporations have only replaced the tyranny of colonial Europe. Now they think they are Persons and Their Supreme court has ruled as much 14 times over history. Remaining Quiet, is not the answer to any problem. Becoming Informed, and using that knowledge to affect laws which provide a just effect of equality and self sufficiency is the correct method. Harassment comes only from the uninformed, and greedy. They either do not know, or conceive a bad result or have only their shortsighted welfare in view. So long as I retain the right to speak, I shall do so. As for harassment, it is "hard to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person".
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There has to be some clause in the lease limiting landowner liability for injuries caused by the turbines including injuries to health from noise??? Loss of property value??? Be interesting to see one of these leases and read all the fine print, especially the gag orders. What other rights does the landowner give up? Mineral rights? And for how long do these leases last? What if the developer LLC goes bankrupt is the landowner left with clean-up and removal costs or does the state step in?
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Comment by Whetstone_Willy on January 17, 2015 at 12:04pm
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Have lawsuits been filed against the landowners leasing land to the wind developers? Maybe word needs to get out there is risk in leasing one's land when one sells out their neighbors. Wonder if the wind companies' lawyers would jump in or if the landowners would be on their own.
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Paula D Kelso...I am so sorry about what you have gone through in questioning wind farms. People in NY state who questioned brought a lawsuit , with other problems , re. harassment . And other people in ME have been harassed and kept quiet about it.
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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT
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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/
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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law
Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future
"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."
https://pinetreewatch.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/
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