Should You Trust Climate Science” Maybe the Eclipse Is a Clue”

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Comment by Paula D Kelso on August 21, 2017 at 6:42pm

Yeah, well Jim. It's like this. I'm 72 years old and have been very chemically sensitive for the last 41of them, probably even before that. So what to blame? The kerosene I drank out of a Campbell Tomato soup can when I was a toddler? Running around in my parents and grandparents blueberry field as a young child right after DDT and brush killer spraying? Living for 2 years in a very tightly built 8 x 40 mobile home with an old smelly, and probably CO producing, oil burner in the bedroom? Moving into a brand new formaldehyde reeking mobile home in 1970? Living next to a log dump that was regularly sprayed with pesticides by helicopter? Take your pick, or was it all that penicillin and sulfa drugs I was given as a child? Whatever, I'm never going to be a fan of most pesticides or herbicides. We have to have better solutions. Cancer is rampant everywhere. But I still don't think it's a good idea to replace all fossil fuel plants with wind turbines. It would be helpful for overall health of people but the economic consequences would be devastating. Consequential decisions are usually never black and white but the least we can do is have fair, open debate and honest, exhaustive fact seeking. Expediting makes sense for some things but the impact of these energy decisions requires a very thorough airing and weighing of all the problems and consequences. As you will note, my exposures to toxic stuff was due to personal choices, but how far can you go blaming yourself when those choices were typical for normal people living a normal life. We're much more aware of environmental hazards now but still quite limited in our ability to avoid them. Trust me, it's no fun trying to live an existence free of chemical exposures. I can't tell if the wind turbines affect my health, it has been worse since they went up but it wasn't that great before they went operational. I was here first, but we've all found out that doesn't matter  much....

Comment by Jim Lutz on August 21, 2017 at 4:14pm

Paula, perhaps one of the best science experiments, and most controversial, in the 20th century was established by introducing DDT to the environment. During the short time it was around, it almost eradicated the pesky mosquito, even in remote Africa. Then eugenicist "scientist" Rachel Carson wrote the book that introduced her book Silent Spring and changed the world. More people are killed by mosquitoes than almost ANY other predator. They infect people and especially wildlife and pets. 

While DDT can be dangerous, it was by no means the killer of wildlife and people that its quarry, the mosquito, was. Science can be corrupted by politics. Look up Rachel Carson. Her links to eugenics and Paul Ehrlich, Margaret Sanger and the Progressive Racist Eugenics campaign are irrefutable. 

Comment by Paula D Kelso on August 21, 2017 at 3:39pm

More thoughts on scientific solutions to our problems:

I think the philosophying over the last few centuries has boiled down to the question of whether humankind should put it's faith in some kind of unknowable supreme force in the universe or in good old solid science. The problem, to me, becomes if you put all your faith in science that's putting all your faith in fallible human beings. I'd just as soon put my faith in some kind of 'god' or 'nature' and remain skeptical of my fellow humans ability to save me and our planet. I think we've all seen stuff that goes beyond 'scientific proof' and leaves us in awe. Yeah those turbines over on the cover of Mike Bond's book kinda look like crosses but I'm not ready to worship them for my salvation.

Comment by Paula D Kelso on August 21, 2017 at 3:15pm

So just looking at Facebook and found links to a few troubling articles. Says NASA is having school kids send bacteria up in balloons today to test the effects of the eclipse on the bacteria, apparently simulates the atmosphere on Mars??!! That's not the troubling part, the article says countries send stuff up into the stratosphere on occasion and there's been a move to send aluminum up to see if it will counteract climate change...  Is this what 'science' has come to? I guess developing nuclear bombs and chemical weapons isn't scarey enough. Like there aren't enough ways scientists can help in everyday life without dreaming up fantastic ways to save the universe. Like conscientious testing of municipal water supplies to be sure they are are lead free, like developing toothpaste that's free of carcinogens, like finding ways to keep mercury and arsenic out of food and water. Oh but those are too mundane tasks and there's no big profit to be made. Why can't we just worry about what we can control that will improve and preserve our way of life and forget about risky big scientific breakthroughs that will enable us humans to rule the world and conquer all sickness, death and plagues. Just do some practical and realistic cost/benefit analysis on these awesome and magnificent 'scientific' projects.

Comment by Jim Lutz on August 21, 2017 at 12:21pm

I just began thinking about some things in ancient, even prehistoric history that might make some sense when thought about in terms of climate change. 

Atlantis, a mythical city spoken of often and has totally disappeared from the face of the Earth. When we consider that following the last ice age the Sea Level rose 400 feet, it is entirely possible that Atlantis could be under far more water than where they have been looking. Just think about the amount of water it took to carve the Grand Canyon by the Colorado River from the flow of numerous Ice Ages. It had to go somewhere!

Let's think about the Biblical history story of Noah. It is written that the water rose quickly. That may be a stretch, but in those days, the world to those people was limited to a few hundred miles radius of where they lived. Could it be that a huge volcano somewhere erupted or a massive undersea earthquake created a 200 foot tidal wave that flooded their small piece of real estate? Think what these changes in our environment would mean today. But one thing is sure, that these are instantaneous happenings and would have had no time to plan.

In terms of Ice Age melting, they would have taken centuries or millenniums to occur. There is no written history from this period but they DID happen, and to deny that is simply unscientific, as our friends at the IPCC seem to think.

Comment by Jim Lutz on August 21, 2017 at 11:54am

Thank you Mr. Bradley. You are right on point as usual.
The recent attempt to erase history by the Leftists is truly a means to the end. However, the environmental Left has erased environmental history for years. We learn by what happened in history but only if we study it and see what happened. The Environmental Left does’t care what happened because it does not fit their narrative. They were never taught that the Civil War was about state’s rights, not slavery. They have not been taught the history of the Earth’s climate changes. The majority of them know there was an ice age but don’t know how it started or ended without the help of human activity. They don’t know there have been MANY ice ages and MANY periods of high heat, many higher than we are in today.
I have to say our corrupt education system has been the perpetrator of this lack of knowledge of history, and now those educated by the corrupt education system have become the voices of the Left and the Media. Somehow we have to get this turned around before all us “old geezers” who studied history are gone.