New England is Importing Electricity from New York and Canada and Paying a Premium Price for it

 "Natural gas-fired generation sets the clearing price across broad areas of ISO-NE, NYISO, and MISO in at least 75 percent of pricing intervals"

Current energy price component for electricity in New England is $103.18 per megawatt hour. In New York, it is $67.21 per megawatt hour.

If natural gas-fired plants are setting the clearing price for New England and in the neighboring state of New York, why the difference in prices?

New England is currently importing 1500 megawatts from New York.

New England is currently importing over 2300 megawatts from Canada.

Imports account for 30% of New England's' load.

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Comment by Willem Post on January 7, 2025 at 9:22am

Ken,

All utilities have contracts with electricity producers for at least 90% of their electricity needs, the other 10%  is bought at prevailing wholesale market prices.

ISO-NE has mark ups and charges fees

All that is the utility’s  cost of acquired power

On top of that are political bullshit charges, such as taxes, fees, surcharges.

It would be good to get the cost structure line items of a utility

Also the cost structure of the rate base on which profit percent is calculated.

You would have to sit down with an insider accountant who is retired and willing to talk on the QT

Comment by Dan McKay on January 6, 2025 at 10:26am

Willem,

Vermont participates in the ISO-NE market and the power that GMP purchases from HQ has to enter its supply to the wholesale market. I am assuming GMP is buying the energy component only from HQ. ISO-NE reports that the 2023 average wholesale energy price was $37 per megawatt hour ( 3.7 cents per kilowatt hour) GMP loses 2.3 cents on every KWh, unless the power from HQ is supplied at peak hours only. Ratepayers make up the difference. 

As a participant to ISO-NE operations, utilities are charged for ISO - NE transmission charges,  Regional Network System charges, forward capacity market charges, line loss and congestion charges and other ancillary costs. This brings the wholesale costs to 8.2 cents per KWh. Add in state policy costs for renewable energy credits, solar benefits, distribution infrastructure costs, administrated costs, regulatory agency costs, utility profits and you get to retail price.

Comment by Willem Post on January 6, 2025 at 9:31am

Dan,

GMP, a utility in Vermont has a 20-y contract to buy 1.2 billion kWh/y from Hydro-Quebec at 6 c/kWh, wholesale.

Canada is eager to sell it, because it has excess hydro capacity.

Comment by Dan McKay on January 5, 2025 at 11:33am

I agree, Willem, but when the Hub LMP in the ISO-NE market is higher than the LMP price for the NY-ISO and the Canadian province wholesale price, then the importing entities receive the higher ISO-NE LMP to their benefit.

On the other hand, importing a significant amount of electricity prevents the native LMPs from moving higher on the marginal clearinghouse price stack. 

I'm assuming ISO-NE finds importing power that even if gives imports a profit boost is cheaper than the marginal price hike from more native supply which could only be natural gas plants, and they are in a position of fuel constraint.

All the more reason to increase pipeline capacity to increase natural gas supplies to generation plants.  

And, with the Maine PUC having a very poor record with long term contracts, mainly because the laws that have been enacted only allow the PUC to approve the lowest bid contract, even when the bid is raising rates.

Comment by Willem Post on January 5, 2025 at 10:06am

Dan,

The STEADY electricity NE imports from Canada, under long term contract, is lower priced, c/kWh, than anything produced in NE.

We should have a lot more of it, but the wind and solar idiots are against it, because that would displace their highly subsidized, 3-4 times more expensive, variable electricity, that is weather-dependent and only occasionally available .

It is truly incompressible how technically naive politicians have drunk the Kool-Aid to vote, like robots, for wind and solar, because it screws their own constituents 

 

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