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Comment by Paula D Kelso on November 15, 2016 at 6:30pm

Sounds good to me Penny.

Yeah I remember that crawling under our desks thing - in front of the whole wall of windows. My father was civil defense person for our town and had a Geiger counter. I used it for my senior physics project measuring the radioactivity in the air and food. I stood outside holding that thing for many hours. My mother let me use the pop corn popper, I lined it with foil and boiled some milk to a crisp to test the common knowledge at the time that cow's milk was being contaminated by the clouds of radioactivity being put into the atmosphere by Soviet nuclear testing. The charred remains didn't make the thing jump. Probably the radon in all our Maine basements and wells was more of a threat? There was some correlation between wind direction and wind speed and readings. Ah yes, correlation vs causation, do they still teach that?

Comment by Penny Gray on November 15, 2016 at 4:43pm

This very clever culture of fear has been pushed on kids the way hiding under our desks at school to save us from nuclear attack was pushed on us during the cold war.   Wouldn't it be fun to put together a team of bright young critically thinking kids to enter this "kidwind challenge" demonstrating how industrial wind can't possibly save the planet?  John Droz can coach them.

Comment by Paula D Kelso on November 15, 2016 at 4:32pm

Sorry Eric to touch on one of your pet peeves, indoctrination of the youth.

I was kind of focused on one of my pet peeves, the subtle tie in between between the Dept. of Energy and the multinational Iberdrola and how that was being used. Just read some money detail about prescription drug cost and government buying of same through Medicare and Medicaid. Transparency and accountability needed ASAP on all government dealings with private enterprises. And King Angus and Baldacci as poster boys as an impetus for the reformation.

Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on November 15, 2016 at 4:10pm

Sounds like a Typical  Brainwashing Camp.......... Start with the kids............ Similar to the technique used since the Bill Clinton days on our youth. Get 'em while they are young.  Now as they get to College age, some of these who have never been told NO, not everything goes your way, they again need Coloring books, Crayons, PlayDough, Cry-Ins, and Trophies for all to cope on College Campuses.  (A new society of ? workers or whiners).

With 67% of the nation either below minimum wage (those that work) or on some sort of Government check (including those that worked for Social Security) and those 2% above the 500k income level, it is NO WONDER 31% got tired of sliding downward to add to the growing 67%.

If the 31% is divided politically, 29% are the whining Dems, 26% Rep with 40% the Politically Disgusted which translates to about 12.5% of America. That 12.5 % is probably the only portion of this nation that has a reality view without any special influence from the other politically committed, ultra wealthy or hopelessly impoverished.

It is time to brainwash our children into thinking for themselves, working for themselves and bucking up to realize life is hard at best, and once was much more difficult.

Main Stream Media candy coats the good, promotes the violence and those at Fox News who are rolling in the dough, just do not get it.  When a News reporter states that she is Middle Class America, at 6-9 Million a year............. where in hell is the top or bottom.......... Maybe she meant to say Middle Class Wealthy.... She should try 12,000 per year after working a lifetime.

Comment by Paula D Kelso on November 15, 2016 at 3:19pm

Follow the green brick road to Iberdrola:

http://apps2.eere.energy.gov/wind/windexchange/calendar.asp

http://apps2.eere.energy.gov/wind/windexchange/detail.asp?stateab=M...

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/kidwind-challenge-event-portland-me-ti...

http://kidwindchallenge.org/

http://www.rechargelabs.org/challenge/wind-turbine-challenge/view-e...

http://www.avangrid.com/AboutAvanGrid/OurCompanies/default.html

http://www.avangrid.com/AboutAvanGrid/default.html

And to quote:

Our mission: Empowerment through knowledge

Every year we are blown away by the knowledge and resourcefulness that students dedicate to their wind turbine. We have tons of fun at these events, poking and prodding, blowing and spinning, but we never lose sight of our broader mission behind these KidWind Challenges:


  • Get students excited about the promise and opportunities of renewable energy—specifically wind power—and its relationship to global climate change.

  • Foster opportunities for students to build, test, explore, and understand wind energy technology at a manageable scale.

  • Get students—particularly girls and underrepresented populations—excited about careers in STEM fields related to renewable energy.

  • Build capacity of teachers, coaches, and other educators to better understand wind energy technology and development, as well as its promise and limitations.

  • Connect students to mentors and role models in the renewable energy industry.

 

Maine as Third World Country:

CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power

 

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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT

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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/

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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."

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