I finally got back to completing some of the Energy comparisons, The results are fairly near what I expected in that in petroleum, all are darn near equal in CO2 output. But in doing some energy type conversions of petroleum to BTU, to kWh, to get a comparison of their equalities (or not) this per government publications shows how 1 wind turbine stacks up as to CO2 savings.
Conventional Summer Gasoline (based on 40 Mpg) 1Mwh = 1192.02 road miles.
Now Keep your eyes on the subsidy ball....... follow slowly and correct me if I am wrong.... I have been known to be.....
= 114,500 BTU's / Gallon
=33.56 kWh / Gallon
=.02980 gallons /kWh
= .585278 lb of CO2 / kWh
= 585.278 lb of CO2 /MWh
Ok?
Now....
1 Turbine at @28% avg wind time @ 2.0Mwh NPR 24h/365d = 4905.6 MWh
4905.6 MWh X 585.278 lb of CO2 /MWh = 2871139.7568 lb of CO2
1435.5698784 Tons of CO2 saved from the atmosphere per 1 year
1435.57 Tons saved per year X 20 years 28711.40 Tons of CO2
1435.57 Tons - 116,951,466.24 road miles @ 15,000 miles annually =7,796.76 cars off the road.
Wait.......
1 Turbine (90 meters to hub) U.S. produced = 116,072.46 Tons LCA for 20 Years (U.S. Standards) (China 3 to 10 times more) [(Includes mining to recycling)]
See the problem?
80.85 years worth of CO2 invested before the turbine turns, if ever.
It seems a minimum of an 8Mw turbine per tower is needed to break even in 20 years.
All figures are based on EPA (btu outputs of fuels) and EIA (CO2 outputs of fuels) public figures http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=307&t=11
To me this looks like a 1:10 increase not a 10:1 reduction in CO2 output. In China's case 1:30 to 1:100
And that CO2 reducing Ethanol they raved about, for which we burn rather than feed live stock to keep our food prices down, saves us 0.001187 pounds of CO2 per gallon, or 1.1 pounds per 1000 gallons, or @ 40 Mpg, every 40,000 miles.
Again per their figures.
Corn Ethanol 26.1 lb of corn to produce 1 gallon of Ethanol (approximately 76,100 Btu's)
76,100 Btu's the output in body heat of 9.21 humans per day of normal breathing.
2.81 lb of corn per person per day.
U.S. Sen Angus King
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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT
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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/
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"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."
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