Sure sounds like a viable case to me. Doesn't cost that much to file a lawsuit; so why haven't you done it? This would be the perfect time; in fact, probably the only time it really makes sense ....SO JUST DO IT!

Sometimes if  a cause is righteous, you have to lead the way and endless posting is wasted, so just find a lawyer or head to the law court and file the suit yourself...the clerk will help you. Ask Crocker if he will review the filing.

You've convinced me there was and is no 'emergency' that passes constitutional muster; so now you MUST sue to correct things. Blogging is useless. 

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Comment by Martha thacker on April 4, 2013 at 11:41pm

"Martha, you can sit at your computer and use the software to calculate the impact of deforesting a wind farm and send the results to  media, and the new PUC director and ask how this affects thecarbon tax subsidies wind farmers get.

My comment was referring to the above regarding oxygen.  The energy area is highly technical. So is banking. But sometimes, we have to be clear. When we as citizens are being subjected to fraud and loss of property..going over figures repeatedly is not the answer. Very similar to your comment on oxygen. Maybe it is the answer to some question like what do we need to live.

 

Comment by Frank J. Heller, MPA on April 4, 2013 at 11:25am

Martha, everything in the energy area is highly technical and policy changes must reflect the technicalities or else it doesn't change.

I'm suggesting instead of blogging, you find a wind farm, download the software and take the time to learn how to identify trees and use the software to calculate net carbon losses and other effects.

You can never have too much oxygen; every little bit helps restore a vibrant ecological balance to the northern forest. That, to me, is plain common sense.

Comment by Martha thacker on April 4, 2013 at 8:09am

We have so many trees here in upper state ME, that we have significantly more oxygen to start with..as opposed to a more urban area. 

When you say blogging is useless, do you think talking is also useless? Because to me, that is what it is. Does everything have to be highly technical or is there a place for old fashioned common sense?

Comment by Frank J. Heller, MPA on April 3, 2013 at 4:49pm

Martha, you can sit at your computer and use the software to calculate the impact of deforesting a wind farm and send the results to  media, and the new PUC director and ask how this affects the carbon tax subsidies wind farmers get.

I can't see how a UMaine student ethicist is of any benefit in increasing the cost of wind farming. 

Comment by Martha thacker on April 2, 2013 at 6:24pm

LongIslander

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Here's a student interested in Ethics. I'd say we'd have a few things to share with her.

UMaine student leads ethics discussion at Statehouse

That is exactly what we need. Who lives close to U Maine to talk to her? I think ME was a leader in the fight against Monsanto..and Dirigo means something like ..WE are leaders. The timing is perfect.

And what if a well picked Citizens Committee overturns the appeal of the proposed Carroll wind farm. This affects a lot of Maine guide jobs..and the houses which will be affected are not the usual ..poor. Although, there are some  really nice houses affected by the other wind farms...Carroll is like a precious jewel in it's beauty. It hurts to think of what would happen if that ruling is also overturned.

Comment by Martha thacker on April 2, 2013 at 6:17pm

Frank, this is the reason I can't sue by myself. I have had two strokes. ..am 70 years old. One of the strokes happened when I was emailing pinetreewatchdog. I am also poor as dirt. Back when I was working to fight the wind farms, always felt that there were people younger and more well spoken than I was. I can research. The purpose of a group is to use the talents that each has. I know my limitations and was always conscious that others presented the case much better than I could.I am very proud and happy that there are so many in windtaskforce who are brilliant in the spoken and written word.

Comment by Frank J. Heller, MPA on April 2, 2013 at 2:13pm

Here is the tool you can use to determine the loss of carbon sequestration and oxygen release from the photosynthesis of forests destroyed wind farm developers.  While the data base is not complete, you can experiment using your land, since it uses GOOGLE MAPS...lay out your boundaries, select the trees by species and follow instructions....Rather easy to use, and invaluable for finding out the carbon impact of those wind farm 'footprints':

New Tool: Updated, online Tree Carbon Calculator (beta)

A beta release of the public version of the Tree Carbon Calculator, a computer tool to help the public estimate carbon and energy impacts of trees on a single family residential property is available through the ecoSmart Landscapes Portal at www.ecoSmartLandscapes.org. Use Google Chrome, Firefox or IE9 to access. The Carbon and Energy tool is the first in a new suite of tools allowing users to take an integrated approach to planning landscaping at the residential and community level. This release includes all California climate zones. Expect a release for the remainder of the U.S. in 2013. Learn More

Comment by Frank J. Heller, MPA on April 2, 2013 at 1:53pm
Carbon Offsets and Urban Forests

 

California is at the forefront of efforts in the U.S. to develop policies that address climate change, including the first set of protocols that allow urban forestry projects to participate in the state’s cap-and-trade program. Dr. Greg McPherson and co-sponsors organized the Carbon Offsets & Urban Forests Workshop to explore and advance opportunities for urban forest projects. Emerging from that workshop was a Carbon Offsets & Urban Forests Team that has met monthly to 1) revise the protocol to increase participation; 2) develop a new protocol for tree planting and conservation to mitigate greenhouse gas emissions from land development projects; and 3) create a web-based Community of Practice to promote shared learning and advance pilot projects. For updates contact Dr. Greg McPherson (gmcpherson@fs.fed.us).

Comment by Long Islander on April 2, 2013 at 12:20pm

Here's a student interested in Ethics. I'd say we'd have a few things to share with her.

UMaine student leads ethics discussion at Statehouse

http://pinetreewatchdog.org/umaine-student-leads-ethics-discussion-...

Comment by Martha thacker on April 2, 2013 at 9:08am

"Schneider, who earned a bachelor’s degree from Harvard and a law degree from New York University, is no stranger to the Maine Public Utilities Commission. Since he joined Pierce Atwood in 2008, he has represented electric and natural gas utilities before the commission, involving topics such as transmission line siting, eminent domain and rate increases.http://bangordailynews.com/2013/04/01/news/state/lepage-nominates-p..."

HMM Wonder if he will advocate for the public or utilities/wind farms?

 

Maine as Third World Country:

CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power

 

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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT

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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/

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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."

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