Dagher Spoke at Chamber Event in Portland

Dagher, a compelling public speaker, acknowledged the need for backup and or spinning reserve. He said it should be done regionally, probably with Hydro Quebec. He talked about the electrification of our heating and driving systems creating the new demand.

He opined that in his wildest dreams he might someday get production cost down to 8 cents. During Q & A he was reminded many times about the RI project in the paper this week that signed for 25 cents. He acknowledges that it is a challenge, but he has hope. (While he's hoping for the next 20 years he'll also be cashing his Hope Checks from the US Treasury, so hope is a great strategy for him.)

He was asked how, if his best hope will be to someday get production (not counting transmission or distribution) cost is going to be 8 cents, and if he will need to link up with Hydro Quebec to cover the his and lows, how can he expect the customers to pay for his 8 cent power when they are also connected to Hydro Quebec's 2 cent power.

"That is a challenge, but we have to try."

Seriously folks. He might be a brilliant engineer but he's no economist.

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Comment by arthur qwenk on January 8, 2010 at 6:13pm
Academic elites with no economic sense, expecting the "rif - raf" to pay for "their " economic future!
Give the ars hole a shovel, and send him to work, digging for peat moss, (another alternative fuel that may indeed be ecnomically competitive in today's market.)
Comment by John Gates on January 8, 2010 at 5:37pm
Listen to Portland's 560 WGAN's Ken & Mike interview Habib Dagher on Wind Power on 1/7/09 at:

http://www.wgan.com/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=4...

With all due respect professor, please stay within your core competency. And just because you and others can spell out rationale like heating our homes with (EXPENSIVE) electricity and running our cars with (EXPENSIVE) electricity just far enough so we can get to work and pay taxes, doesn't mean that any of it is real. It's almost as ridiculous as the formerly oft cited reason for wind turbines - that they will get us off foreign oil. NOT.
Comment by Art Brigades on December 27, 2009 at 1:42pm
James said: "Habib Dagher is uninformed if he thinks that wind turbines will have any impact at all on our purchases of foreign oil."
Don't be fooled, James. Habib is not uninformed. But what do we expect him to say/do? He just won a multi-million dollar stimulus sweepstakes check to keep him on board the kool aid train. And he's coming to Portland to pour more kool aid for a bunch of business folks who want to be green. This group should be there.
Comment by Martha Thacker on December 24, 2009 at 1:58pm
So funny. Foreign oil is Central Maine Electric owned by Iberdrola. Funded by Abu Dhabi Energy. Google it.

Just read the transcript from the PUC hearing. A John Krueger , selectman from Liberty, said he understood that the new transmission lines were not for the wind farms. Odd.

They will start in Orrington. In the transcript of US govt vs FERC it is stated that the New England Grid is full. There is a bottleneck starting at Orrington for upper state ME wind farms to send their power to Mass.You can read it at http://bit.ly/3XMRV1 You just have to find words you can understand. Not easy reading.

Before the Stetson Mt wind farm was built, NStar in Mass. made public that they wanted to sell wind power from upper state ME and NY at 7% higher price. Just had to get some laws changed first. Guess that happened. So why was Stetson I and all the rest of the wind farms permitted with no place for the power to go?

Something is very wrong at Stetson I. Their lights were out/turbine blades not turning for about 2 weeks. Guess that lays to rest any questions as to whether they actually are producing electricity. The only true investigation of wide spread scam involving Iso New England, FERC and ME state govt. is coming out of the Conn AG office. No one seems to care. Just like the FAA didn't care that Stetson's red blinking lights were out at night. It was up to the people living aroung the mountain to notify the wind farm owners. We don't even know who they are. After Credit Suisse threatened to foreclose the first of the year....do not know who bought it. Trade secret , I guess.
Comment by James Joseph Parker on December 24, 2009 at 1:51pm
Habib Dagher is uninformed if he thinks that wind turbines will have any impact at all on our purchases of foreign oil.

Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law

Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future

"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."

https://pinetreewatch.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/

 

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CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power

 

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Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT

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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/

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