Comments - Robert Bryce: Big Wind loves to claim that their projects are being welcomed by rural communities - Citizens' Task Force on Wind Power - Maine2024-03-28T17:24:17Zhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4401701%3ABlogPost%3A99710&xn_auth=noHi Robert,
Here is another EP…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2017-05-20:4401701:Comment:999422017-05-20T16:45:46.391ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>Here is another EPA screw up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/comparison-of-energy-efficiency-and-co2-of-gasoline-and-electric" target="_blank">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/comparison-of-energy-efficiency-and-co2-of-gasoline-and-electric</a></p>
<p><b>Debunking the Phony EPA Fuel Consumption Numbers - all numbers are on a source energy basis:</b></p>
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<p><b>-</b> An E10 vehicle, 28 mpg, uses 2.321 gal x 112114 Btu/gal =…</p>
<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>Here is another EPA screw up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/comparison-of-energy-efficiency-and-co2-of-gasoline-and-electric" target="_blank">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/comparison-of-energy-efficiency-and-co2-of-gasoline-and-electric</a></p>
<p><b>Debunking the Phony EPA Fuel Consumption Numbers - all numbers are on a source energy basis:</b></p>
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<p><b>-</b> An E10 vehicle, 28 mpg, uses 2.321 gal x 112114 Btu/gal = 260265 Btu of E10 to go 65 miles in one hour (tank-to wheel basis), per Table 6, or 328948 Btu, on a SE basis.</p>
<p>- An EV uses 24.371 kWh x 3412 Btu/kWh = 83155 Btu to go 65 miles in one hour (meter-to-wheel basis), per Table 9, or 249074 Btu, on a SE basis.</p>
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<p>The EPA mpg gasoline equivalent is based on the energy content of gasoline. The energy obtainable from burning one US gallon of gasoline is 115,000 Btu, or 33.705 kWh, or 121.3 MJ. If a different fuel, such as E10, is used, then the Btu of that fuel is used to determine EPA MPGe.</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_per_gallon_gasoline_equivalent">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miles_per_gallon_gasoline_equivalent</a></p>
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<p>EPA EV mileage = total miles/(fuel energy/energy/gal) = 65/(83154/112114) = 87.6 MPGe. The EPA deliberately ignores the US electrical system upstream SE factor and the E10 upstream SE factor. If the US SE factor were applied, the real mileage would be 87.6/2.9953 = 29.3 mpg, similar to the 28 mpg of the E10 vehicle, as one would expect.</p>
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<p>The car manufacturers are in on the deal, because they are allowed to take those low MPGe numbers and average them into their CAFE mpg, making it look lower than it really is to befuddle the public, which is somewhat of a sham. </p>
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<p>The official explanation of the EPA is that people are familiar with miles/gallon, and EPA decided to call it “miles/gallon equivalent”. Engineers may not be befuddled, but Joe Blow likely is. Just ask some average people what it means. They have no idea. That means what EPA came up with was confusing. </p>
<p></p> Hi Robert,
About as welcome a…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2017-05-17:4401701:Comment:995592017-05-17T21:50:32.613ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>About as welcome as a farmer spreading manure on our next-door pasture.</p>
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<p>With the EPA doing this type calculating, how would it ever deserve any respect.</p>
<p>The name of the game is to befuddle the common folks, with help of well-connected insiders, legislatures and the media, and some grease money into grabby palms. See article.…</p>
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<p>Hi Robert,</p>
<p>About as welcome as a farmer spreading manure on our next-door pasture.</p>
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<p>With the EPA doing this type calculating, how would it ever deserve any respect.</p>
<p>The name of the game is to befuddle the common folks, with help of well-connected insiders, legislatures and the media, and some grease money into grabby palms. See article.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/comparison-of-energy-efficiency-and-co2-of-gasoline-and-electric" target="_blank">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/comparison-of-energy-efficiency-and-co2-of-gasoline-and-electric</a></p> This is one article that will…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2017-05-17:4401701:Comment:998262017-05-17T11:44:54.246ZPenny Grayhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/PennyGray
<p>This is one article that will never make it into the newspapers.</p>
<p>This is one article that will never make it into the newspapers.</p> Great piece by Bryce! Wish t…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2017-05-16:4401701:Comment:999032017-05-16T14:43:04.526ZBarbara Durkinhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/BarbaraDurkin
<p>Great piece by Bryce! Wish there were more like him. Thanks for sharing, LI.</p>
<p>Great piece by Bryce! Wish there were more like him. Thanks for sharing, LI.</p>