Comments - NY Revises Code of Conduct for Wind Energy Companies - Citizens' Task Force on Wind Power - Maine2024-03-28T17:04:57Zhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4401701%3ABlogPost%3A76250&xn_auth=noSorry, that was Superior Cour…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:763332016-04-08T19:08:50.308ZPaula D Kelsohttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/PaulaDKelso
<p>Sorry, that was Superior Court, not law court, in my last comment</p>
<p>Sorry, that was Superior Court, not law court, in my last comment</p> How about, like here in Clift…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:766022016-04-08T19:07:15.987ZPaula D Kelsohttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/PaulaDKelso
<p>How about, like here in Clifton, where one of the owners of Pisgah LLC was also a municipal official (a selectman) and the town attorney allowed said selectman to sit at the Board table and to go into executive session with the Board to discuss the Pisgah law suit. When I complained, I was so harassed I had to leave the meeting. No one on the Board would admit or deny whether they had discussed the lawsuit or the project in the session. Of course, any decisions were made behind closed doors…</p>
<p>How about, like here in Clifton, where one of the owners of Pisgah LLC was also a municipal official (a selectman) and the town attorney allowed said selectman to sit at the Board table and to go into executive session with the Board to discuss the Pisgah law suit. When I complained, I was so harassed I had to leave the meeting. No one on the Board would admit or deny whether they had discussed the lawsuit or the project in the session. Of course, any decisions were made behind closed doors and weren't on the record. When the case came back from the law court, finally the Board excluded Mr. Williams from their executive session. Tell me, what are the ethics and codes of conduct relevant here? Citizens tsk, tsk in the safety of their homes, but who wants to take on a corrupt town government?</p> Marie Jane says: I totally a…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:766012016-04-08T19:01:29.599ZMarie Janehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/MarieJane
<p>Marie Jane says: I totally agree about legislation and the mandates that got this country into this mess ......... we really did not have a say. BUT, in 2008 ish, we had been greenwashed......had we known then what we have learned to date, the wind industry and our government would not have gotten this far.....sticky fingers and corrupt and collusion galore! They did a masterful job of setting us up and implementing laws we did not question..........there may have been some out there in…</p>
<p>Marie Jane says: I totally agree about legislation and the mandates that got this country into this mess ......... we really did not have a say. BUT, in 2008 ish, we had been greenwashed......had we known then what we have learned to date, the wind industry and our government would not have gotten this far.....sticky fingers and corrupt and collusion galore! They did a masterful job of setting us up and implementing laws we did not question..........there may have been some out there in the general public who got it, but not many.........we had not yet started to hear truths or that the wind industry had started covering up noise issues known and shared with them by NASA in 1979 and then GreenGore got involved and the politics of wind evolved.............and I know that children are learning only one side of the renewable story; my 11 year old grandson and I did battle when I "bad mouthed" (by his standard) wind turbines........we have a lot of educating to do to make people realize that there is more to the story. I have suggested many times to our Legislators to revisit the laws ...... I have yet to hear back.........no surprise; they really do not know or want to know what we do....wonder why.........</p> Marie Jane - in light of the…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:765082016-04-08T18:38:39.325ZLong Islanderhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/LongIslander
<p>Marie Jane - in light of the eight years of experience we have now had since the Maine wind law was forced upon us (never even debated by the legislature), I believe there is now enough information that undermines the rationale for said law and that we need such a moratorium declared so that we can reflect all the learning in far more sensible legislation. The current wind law needs to be gutted. The moratorium would stop any more damage from occurring until such time this can all be…</p>
<p>Marie Jane - in light of the eight years of experience we have now had since the Maine wind law was forced upon us (never even debated by the legislature), I believe there is now enough information that undermines the rationale for said law and that we need such a moratorium declared so that we can reflect all the learning in far more sensible legislation. The current wind law needs to be gutted. The moratorium would stop any more damage from occurring until such time this can all be empirically assessed. The wind law came not from empiricism but rather from special interests with fistfuls of taxpayer dollars, lobbyists, lawyers and bag men.</p> Marie Jane says: These 17 AG…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:762552016-04-08T17:56:15.084ZMarie Janehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/MarieJane
<p>Marie Jane says: These 17 AGs were on a mission to "investigate" exxon and tag them as "climate deniers" and NY came up w/this code; can't wait to see what the other 16 AGs come up with .......... the only thing these AGs should be investigating is the industrial wind turbine agenda and the wind industry........I have yet to hear what the Legal definition is of "Climate Denier" or the details of the suggested "Prosecution"..... Long Islander you say a very strict code of conduct (for…</p>
<p>Marie Jane says: These 17 AGs were on a mission to "investigate" exxon and tag them as "climate deniers" and NY came up w/this code; can't wait to see what the other 16 AGs come up with .......... the only thing these AGs should be investigating is the industrial wind turbine agenda and the wind industry........I have yet to hear what the Legal definition is of "Climate Denier" or the details of the suggested "Prosecution"..... Long Islander you say a very strict code of conduct (for Maine) would be better than none........A Code of Conduct implies legitimacy and credibility; we all know this not to be the case. I think a moratorium on all industrial wind turbine permitting and installations until the AGs investigate the wind industry is a better solution and then, it appears, we will have to figure out who should investigate the AGs........</p> Code of Conduct for bribery?…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:765062016-04-08T17:37:10.370ZPenny Grayhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/PennyGray
<p>Code of Conduct for bribery? How bizarre.</p>
<p>Code of Conduct for bribery? How bizarre.</p> Collusion, conspiracy, intimi…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:763302016-04-08T17:35:27.543ZBarbara Durkinhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/BarbaraDurkin
Collusion, conspiracy, intimidation, fraud, bribery and public corruption...for the "Public Good". It's better defined as tyranny.
Collusion, conspiracy, intimidation, fraud, bribery and public corruption...for the "Public Good". It's better defined as tyranny. Marie Jane - I agree that the…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:764232016-04-08T17:30:49.111ZLong Islanderhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/LongIslander
<p><span>Marie Jane - I agree that the code does endorse wind. So while I think having a very strict code would be better than none at all, the laws in Maine which favor wind need to be eradicated. The other place where a code of conduct comes up short is it doesn't address outright under the table bribes. Too many inexplicable things have happened repeatedly in Maine which grossly favor the wind industry that it is hard not to conclude that key players in all the right places have been paid…</span></p>
<p><span>Marie Jane - I agree that the code does endorse wind. So while I think having a very strict code would be better than none at all, the laws in Maine which favor wind need to be eradicated. The other place where a code of conduct comes up short is it doesn't address outright under the table bribes. Too many inexplicable things have happened repeatedly in Maine which grossly favor the wind industry that it is hard not to conclude that key players in all the right places have been paid off.</span></p> I so agree, Mary Jane. This r…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:760992016-04-08T17:27:56.168ZBarbara Durkinhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/BarbaraDurkin
I so agree, Mary Jane. This revised code blesses illegality, again! The AG identifies criminal behavior and provides cover for the criminals. Who else but wind developers would receive such a wimpy wrist slap for briibery involving public officials?
I so agree, Mary Jane. This revised code blesses illegality, again! The AG identifies criminal behavior and provides cover for the criminals. Who else but wind developers would receive such a wimpy wrist slap for briibery involving public officials? Marie Jane says: If I may. …tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-04-08:4401701:Comment:764212016-04-08T17:03:03.885ZMarie Janehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/MarieJane
<p>Marie Jane says: If I may. I saw this "code" post several minutes ago. I have copied the two comments that appeared (one is mine); see below. In my opinion this code of conduct merely recognizes the wind industry for what it is, corrupt, but further opens the door to let them continue to move the wind turbine agenda forward. Why give them recognition or acknowledgement through a superficial code when they do not recognize the common code of respect for industrial wind turbine neighbors'…</p>
<p>Marie Jane says: If I may. I saw this "code" post several minutes ago. I have copied the two comments that appeared (one is mine); see below. In my opinion this code of conduct merely recognizes the wind industry for what it is, corrupt, but further opens the door to let them continue to move the wind turbine agenda forward. Why give them recognition or acknowledgement through a superficial code when they do not recognize the common code of respect for industrial wind turbine neighbors' health and well being or respect for the environment. This is an industry that operates and moves forward through "gag orders"; the code does not it say that information will be made public.</p>
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<div><div class="UFICommentContentBlock"><div class="UFICommentContent"><span>Stephen T.</span> <span><span><span class="UFICommentBody"><span>Sounds like AG Schneiderman is in bed with the wind industry: "Public officials throughout New York should encourage the growth of a strong, sustainable wind industry for the public good."</span></span></span></span><div class="UFITranslatedText"></div>
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<div class="fsm fwn fcg UFICommentActions"><span><span><span class="UFICommentBody _1n4g"><span><span>Marie Jane says: Ditto Stephen T. comments.........this gives license and recognizes the industrial wind turbine agenda as worthy of support which it is not (my opinion). The AG states “Public officials throughout New York should encourage the g</span></span><span><span><span>rowth of a strong, sustainable wind industry for the public good........" REALLY? And what is AG Schneiderman's basis for determining that the wind industry is for the public good..........FACTS please.</span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
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