Comments - In Spite of the Promises of 2008, We Are Not Ready for Massive Wind and Solar in Maine or Anywhere Else - Citizens' Task Force on Wind Power - Maine2024-03-29T09:20:58Zhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4401701%3ABlogPost%3A75583&xn_auth=noRemember when wind pusher Gov…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-03-29:4401701:Comment:758012016-03-29T10:34:42.734ZLong Islanderhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/LongIslander
<p><span>Remember when wind pusher Governor Baldacci told us that the race was on to build Maine wind and that Maine had to be "a leader" lest transmission lines for bringing Midwest wind to the East would beat Maine to the punch? Remember he told Jennifer Rooks on MPBN that Maine wind would help keep Al Qaeda at bay? That video is still available. The con-artist actually said that. What a rigged game.</span></p>
<p><span>Remember when wind pusher Governor Baldacci told us that the race was on to build Maine wind and that Maine had to be "a leader" lest transmission lines for bringing Midwest wind to the East would beat Maine to the punch? Remember he told Jennifer Rooks on MPBN that Maine wind would help keep Al Qaeda at bay? That video is still available. The con-artist actually said that. What a rigged game.</span></p> I count myself as a tree hugg…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-03-28:4401701:Comment:753872016-03-28T22:31:07.182ZPenny Grayhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/PennyGray
<p>I count myself as a tree hugger and an environmentalist and have lived off grid for almost 30 years on a tiny solar powered system, so I guess I could be considered a "Greenhead" but one who has had many years of education (by necessity) in renewable energy. I think many people have been "greenwashed" by the ideaology and symbolism, but we need evidence based, science based solutions to our energy needs. Problem is, how do we gracefully change horses in mid-stream? How do we admit we were…</p>
<p>I count myself as a tree hugger and an environmentalist and have lived off grid for almost 30 years on a tiny solar powered system, so I guess I could be considered a "Greenhead" but one who has had many years of education (by necessity) in renewable energy. I think many people have been "greenwashed" by the ideaology and symbolism, but we need evidence based, science based solutions to our energy needs. Problem is, how do we gracefully change horses in mid-stream? How do we admit we were going down the wrong path with industrial wind and industrial solar? One reasonable solution would be to make the legislators responsible for legislating and enforcing Maine's Expedited Wind Law, also liable for all the decommissioning costs.</p> A few years back the greenhea…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-03-28:4401701:Comment:754892016-03-28T22:22:16.581ZGary Campbellhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/GaryCampbell
<p>A few years back the greenheads were telling us we need to follow the European model and develop wind projects as fast as we can. On a weekly basis we were told how successful Denmark, Germany and Spain were in developing their wind resources. They were being responsible. They were more 'green' than we were. Europe was far ahead of us and we had better learn from their experience and develop wind energy as fast as we can.</p>
<p>Today much of Europe has learned the hard way that wind is not…</p>
<p>A few years back the greenheads were telling us we need to follow the European model and develop wind projects as fast as we can. On a weekly basis we were told how successful Denmark, Germany and Spain were in developing their wind resources. They were being responsible. They were more 'green' than we were. Europe was far ahead of us and we had better learn from their experience and develop wind energy as fast as we can.</p>
<p>Today much of Europe has learned the hard way that wind is not a viable baseload electricity source. Europe has learned that wind projects destroy tourism, property values and make people sick. Much of Europe has halted wind development.</p>
<p>Where are those greenheads today? Why are they silent?</p>
<p>How do they justify no longer learning from Europe's experience?</p>
<p></p> Here's a very interesting rec…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-03-28:4401701:Comment:756992016-03-28T21:28:10.166ZPenny Grayhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/PennyGray
<p>Here's a very interesting recap on battery storage and energy return on energy invested, and why wind and solar will never power the grid. Interesting read. <a href="http://bravenewclimate.com/2014/08/22/catch-22-of-energy-storage/" target="_blank">http://bravenewclimate.com/2014/08/22/catch-22-of-energy-storage/</a></p>
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<p>Here's a very interesting recap on battery storage and energy return on energy invested, and why wind and solar will never power the grid. Interesting read. <a href="http://bravenewclimate.com/2014/08/22/catch-22-of-energy-storage/" target="_blank">http://bravenewclimate.com/2014/08/22/catch-22-of-energy-storage/</a></p>
<p></p> Wind is potentially an electr…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-03-28:4401701:Comment:756982016-03-28T21:19:04.000ZLong Islanderhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/LongIslander
<div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Wind is potentially an electric grid keeper's worst nightmare because the grid keeper must match electrical supply with electrical demand, and erratic wind holds too many surrpises. For example, the whole state of Maine could be experiencing strong winds and then rather suddenly, the wind dies down.</p>
<p> When the supply can't be depended upon as it can with a source like natural gas, an alternate way to match up supply and demand is to control the demand.…</p>
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<div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Wind is potentially an electric grid keeper's worst nightmare because the grid keeper must match electrical supply with electrical demand, and erratic wind holds too many surrpises. For example, the whole state of Maine could be experiencing strong winds and then rather suddenly, the wind dies down.</p>
<p> When the supply can't be depended upon as it can with a source like natural gas, an alternate way to match up supply and demand is to control the demand. Enter the smart meter and smart grid.</p>
<p> <span style="color: #3366ff;"><em>"A smart grid would allow the integration of variable energy sources like wind and solar. For example, if electricity output dropped suddenly due to a change in wind generation, the grid could dim the lights in big box stores by 20%, a change most people don't perceive, say Don Von Dollen, program manager for the IntelliGrid project at the Electric Power Research Institute".</em></span></p>
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