Comments - Maine's Failed Energy Policy..Why Must Mills Follow Cuomo? --Pipelines ARE Needed in Maine. - Citizens' Task Force on Wind Power - Maine2024-03-29T08:57:20Zhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4401701%3ABlogPost%3A175998&xn_auth=noHere is a table with calculat…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-10-25:4401701:Comment:1767032019-10-25T12:44:41.758ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p>Here is a table with calculations to compare wind and gas generation.</p>
<p>The only reason wind is 10 c/kWh, wholesale, instead of 18 to 20 c/kWh, wholesale, is about 45% of the capital cost is <strong>direct and indirect subsidies.</strong> See my other comments</p>
<p>The gas plant would need only a few acres at an existing industrial site, but the wind plant would need 500 MW/(20 MW/mile) = 25 miles of pristine ridgeline in MA, NH, VT. That would cause:</p>
<p></p>
<p>1) A lot of…</p>
<p>Here is a table with calculations to compare wind and gas generation.</p>
<p>The only reason wind is 10 c/kWh, wholesale, instead of 18 to 20 c/kWh, wholesale, is about 45% of the capital cost is <strong>direct and indirect subsidies.</strong> See my other comments</p>
<p>The gas plant would need only a few acres at an existing industrial site, but the wind plant would need 500 MW/(20 MW/mile) = 25 miles of pristine ridgeline in MA, NH, VT. That would cause:</p>
<p></p>
<p>1) A lot of deforestation and less CO2 sequestration, and</p>
<p>2) Environmental destruction, and</p>
<p>3) Loss of flora and fauna, and</p>
<p>4) A health and quality of life nuisance for nearby people.</p>
<p></p>
<p><a rel="nofollow noopener" href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-shifting-is-the-name-of-the-game-regarding-wind-and-solar" target="_blank">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/cost-shifting-is-the-na...</a></p>
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<table width="397">
<tbody><tr><td width="187"></td>
<td width="97"><p style="text-align: right;">CCGT</p>
</td>
<td width="113"><p style="text-align: right;">Wind, offshore</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="187"><p>MW</p>
</td>
<td width="97"><p style="text-align: right;">500</p>
</td>
<td width="113"><p style="text-align: right;">500</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="187"><p>h/y</p>
</td>
<td width="97"><p style="text-align: right;">8766</p>
</td>
<td width="113"><p style="text-align: right;">8766</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="187"><p>Capacity factor</p>
</td>
<td width="97"><p style="text-align: right;">0.9</p>
</td>
<td width="113"><p style="text-align: right;">0.39</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="187"><p>Electricity genration, MWh</p>
</td>
<td width="97"><p style="text-align: right;">3944700</p>
</td>
<td width="113"><p style="text-align: right;">1709370</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="187"><p>Capital cost, incl. grid connection, $/MW</p>
</td>
<td width="97"><p style="text-align: right;">1500000</p>
</td>
<td width="113"><p style="text-align: right;">4000000</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="187"><p>Capital cost, million</p>
</td>
<td width="97"><p style="text-align: right;">750</p>
</td>
<td width="113"><p style="text-align: right;">2000</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="187"><p>Electricity, c/kWh</p>
</td>
<td width="97"><p style="text-align: right;">5</p>
</td>
<td width="113"><p style="text-align: right;">10</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td width="187"><p>Revenue, $million/y</p>
</td>
<td width="97"><p style="text-align: right;">197.2</p>
</td>
<td width="113"><p style="text-align: right;">170.9</p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> Comments on Below Table
Ind…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-10-22:4401701:Comment:1760802019-10-22T22:44:05.225ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p><strong>Comments on Below Table</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Indirect subsidies </strong>are due to loan interest deduction and depreciation deductions from taxable incomes.</p>
<p><strong>Direct subsidies </strong>are due to up front grants, waiving of state sales taxes, and/or local property (municipal and school) taxes. See URL.</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>An owner of ridgeline wind would have to sell his output at 18.8 c/kWh, if the owner were not getting the…</p>
<p><strong>Comments on Below Table</strong></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Indirect subsidies </strong>are due to loan interest deduction and depreciation deductions from taxable incomes.</p>
<p><strong>Direct subsidies </strong>are due to up front grants, waiving of state sales taxes, and/or local property (municipal and school) taxes. See URL.</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>An owner of ridgeline wind would have to sell his output at 18.8 c/kWh, if the owner were not getting the benefits of cost shifting and upfront cash grants and subsidies.</p>
<p>That owner could sell his output at 16.4 c/kWh, if his costs were reduced due to cost shifting.</p>
<p>He could sell his output at 9 c/kWh, if on top of the cost shifting he also received various subsidies. The same rationale holds for solar. See table.</p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>In NE construction costs of ridgeline wind and offshore wind are high/MW, and the capacity factor of wind is about 0.285 and of solar about 0.14. Thus, NE wind and solar have high prices/MWh. See table.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>In US areas, such as the Great Plains, Texas Panhandle and Southwest, with much lower construction costs/MW and much better sun and wind conditions than New England, wind and solar electricity prices/MWh are less.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Those lower prices often are mentioned, without mentioning other factors, by the pro-RE media and financial consultants, such as Bloomberg, etc., which surely deceives the lay public</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Future electricity cost/MWh, due to the planned build-out of NE offshore wind added to the planned build-out of NE onshore wind, likely would not significantly change, because of the high costs of grid extensions and upgrades to connect the wind plants and to provide significantly increased connections to the New York and Canadian grids.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>NOTE: </strong>For the past 20 years, Germany and Denmark have been increasing their connections to nearby grids, because of their increased wind and solar.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The subsidy percentages in below table are from a cost analysis of NE wind and solar in this article. See URL.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/excessive-subsidies-for-2200-kw-field-mounted-solar-system-in">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/excessive-subsidies-for-2200-kw-field-mounted-solar-system-in</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Values for 2018 are represented in below table.</p>
<p> </p>
<table>
<tbody><tr><td><p>NE Wind/Solar</p>
</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">NE Wind</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>%</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">NE Solar</p>
</td>
<td><p>%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">Ridgeline</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"></td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">Large-scale</p>
</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr><td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">c/kWh</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"></td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">c/kWh</p>
</td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Price to utility</p>
</td>
<td><p>No direct/indirect subsidies</p>
</td>
<td><p>No cost shifting</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">18.8</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>100</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>23.5</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">100</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Less cost shifting</p>
</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">2.4</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>13</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>2.1</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">9</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Price to utility</p>
</td>
<td><p>No direct/indirect subsidies</p>
</td>
<td><p>With cost shifting</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">16.4</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>87</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>21.4</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">91</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Less subsidy, wind</p>
</td>
<td><p>45% of 16.4</p>
</td>
<td></td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">7.4</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">39</p>
</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Less subsidy, solar</p>
</td>
<td><p>45% of 21.4</p>
</td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">9.6</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">41</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Price to utility*</p>
</td>
<td><p>With direct/indirect subsidies</p>
</td>
<td><p>With cost shifting</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">9.0</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>48</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>11.8</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">50</p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table> Wind and Solar Subsidies Prov…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-10-22:4401701:Comment:1763312019-10-22T22:42:09.316ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p><strong>Wind and Solar Subsidies Provide a Bonanza for Wall Street</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-more-wind-and-solar-the-higher-the-electric-rates" target="_blank">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-more-wind-and-solar-the-higher-the-electric-rates</a></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>This URL shows wind and solar prices per kWh would be at least 50% higher without direct and indirect subsidies. They would be even higher, if the costs…</p>
<p><strong>Wind and Solar Subsidies Provide a Bonanza for Wall Street</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-more-wind-and-solar-the-higher-the-electric-rates" target="_blank">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/the-more-wind-and-solar-the-higher-the-electric-rates</a></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p>This URL shows wind and solar prices per kWh would be at least 50% higher without direct and indirect subsidies. They would be even higher, if the costs of other items were properly allocated to the owners of wind and solar projects, instead of shifted elsewhere. See below section High Levels of Wind and Solar Require Energy Storage.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/economics-of-tesla-powerpack-and-powerwall-systems">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/economics-of-tesla-powerpack-and-powerwall-systems</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/large-scale-solar-plants-require-large-scale-battery-systems" target="_blank">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/large-scale-solar-plants-require-large-scale-battery-systems</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.usu.edu/ipe/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/UnseenWindFull.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.usu.edu/ipe/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/UnseenWindFull.pdf</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>This URL shows about 2/3 of the financial value of a wind project is due to <strong>direct and indirect </strong>subsidies, and the other 1/3 is due to electricity sales.</p>
<p><a href="http://johnrsweet.com/Personal/Wind/PDF/Schleede-BigMoney-20050414.pdf">http://johnrsweet.com/Personal/Wind/PDF/Schleede-BigMoney-20050414.pdf</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>- Indirect </strong>subsidies are due to federal and state tax rebates due to loan interest deductions from taxable income, and federal and state MARCS depreciation deductions from taxable income.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>- Direct </strong>subsidies are up-front federal and state cash grants, the partial waiving of state sales taxes, the partial waiving of local property, municipal and school taxes. See URLs.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/excessive-subsidies-for-2200-kw-field-mounted-solar-system-in">http://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/excessive-subsidies-for-2200-kw-field-mounted-solar-system-in</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.eia.gov/analysis/requests/subsidy/pdf/subsidy.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.eia.gov/analysis/requests/subsidy/pdf/subsidy.pdf</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Any owner, foreign or domestic, of a wind and/or solar project, looking to shelter taxable income from their other US businesses, is allowed to depreciate in 6 years almost the entire cost of a wind and solar project under the IRS scheme called Modified Accelerated Cost Recovery System, MARCS. The normal period for other forms of utility depreciation is about 20 years.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Then, with help of Wall Street financial wizardry from financial tax shelter advisers, such as BNEF*, JPMorgan, Lazard, etc., the owner sells the project to a new owner who is allowed to depreciate, according to MARCS, almost his entire cost all over again. Over the past 20 years, there now are many thousands of owners of RE projects who are cashing in on that bonanza.</p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Loss of Federal and State Tax Revenues</strong>: The loss of tax revenues to federal and state governments due to MARCS was estimated by the IRS at $266 billion for the 5y period of 2017 - 2021, or about $53.2 billion/y.</p>
<p>The IRS is required to annually provide a 5y-running estimate to Congress, by law.</p>
<p>The next report would be for the 2018 - 2022 period</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The <strong>indirect</strong> largesse of about $53.2 billion/y, mostly for wind and solar plants^ that produce expensive, variable/intermittent electricity, <strong>does not show up in electric rates</strong>. It likely is added to federal and state debts.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Most of the <strong>direct </strong>federal subsidies to all energy projects of about $25 billion/y also <strong>do not show up in electric rates</strong>. They likely were also added to the federal debt.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Most of the <strong>direct </strong>state subsidies to RE projects likely were added to state debts.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The additional costs of state-mandated RPS requirements likely were added to the utility rate base for electric rates.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>* BNEF is Bloomberg New Energy Finance, owned by the pro-RE former Mayor Bloomberg of New York, which provides financial services to the wealthy of the world, including providing them with tax avoidance schemes.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>^ In New England, wind is near zero for about 30% of the hours of the year, and solar is minimal or zero for about 70% of the hours of the year. Often these hours coincide for multi-day periods, which happen at random throughout the year, per ISO-NE real-time, minute-by-minute generation data posted on its website. Where would the electricity come from during these hours; $multi-billion battery storage, insufficient capacity hydro storage?</p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy17osti/68227.pdf">https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy17osti/68227.pdf</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/tax-equity-investors-break-their-silence-on-tax-bill#gs.GDbC2YIS">https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/tax-equity-investors-break-their-silence-on-tax-bill#gs.GDbC2YIS</a></p>
<p><strong> </strong></p>
<p><strong>Warren Buffett Quote:</strong> "I will do anything that is basically covered by the law to reduce Berkshire's tax rate," Buffet told an audience in Omaha, Nebraska recently. "For example, on wind energy, we get a tax credit if we build a lot of wind farms. That's the only reason to build them. They don't make sense without the tax credit." </p>
<p><a href="https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/nancy-pfotenhauer/2014/05/12/even-warren-buffet-admits-wind-energy-is-a-bad-investment" target="_blank">https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/nancy-pfotenhauer/2014/05/12/even-warren-buffet-admits-wind-energy-is-a-bad-investment</a></p> Offshore Wind vs. Carbon Capt…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-10-22:4401701:Comment:1763172019-10-22T16:01:29.130ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p><strong>Offshore Wind vs. Carbon Capture: Who’s Crushing Whom?</strong></p>
<p></p>
<p>The US currently has one of each up and running. The energy math is decidedly one-sided.</p>
<p></p>
<p><strong>Block Island Wind Farm</strong></p>
<p>The Block Island Wind Farm generates much less energy than an average single Marcellus gas well. </p>
<p>During the first year of operation the <a href="https://www.eia.gov/electricity/data/browser/#/plant/58035">Block Island Wind Farm</a> managed a 39%…</p>
<p><strong>Offshore Wind vs. Carbon Capture: Who’s Crushing Whom?</strong></p>
<p></p>
<p>The US currently has one of each up and running. The energy math is decidedly one-sided.</p>
<p></p>
<p><strong>Block Island Wind Farm</strong></p>
<p>The Block Island Wind Farm generates much less energy than an average single Marcellus gas well. </p>
<p>During the first year of operation the <a href="https://www.eia.gov/electricity/data/browser/#/plant/58035">Block Island Wind Farm</a> managed a 39% capacity factor.</p>
<p><strong>Note the summer lull</strong></p>
<p></p>
<table width="520">
<tbody><tr><td><p> </p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">MWh</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p>100% Output</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">Capacity Factor</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Dec-16</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 6,313</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 21,799</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">29%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Jan-17</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 8,898</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 21,799</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">41%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Feb-17</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 7,801</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 19,690</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">40%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Mar-17</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 10,514</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 21,799</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">48%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Apr-17</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 6,904</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 21,096</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">33%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>May-17</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 9,162</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 21,799</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">42%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Jun-17</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 9,932</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 21,096</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">47%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Jul<strong>-17</strong></p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"><strong> 6,724</strong></p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p><strong> 21,799</strong></p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"><strong>31%</strong></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p><strong>Aug-17</strong></p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"><strong> 5,712</strong></p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p><strong> 21,799</strong></p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"><strong>26%</strong></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p><strong>Sep-17</strong></p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"><strong> 5,698</strong></p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p><strong> 21,096</strong></p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"><strong>27%</strong></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Oct-17</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 10,195</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 21,799</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">47%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Nov-17</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 10,985</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 21,096</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">52%</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>1-yr Total</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 98,838</p>
</td>
<td style="text-align: right;"><p> 256,668</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;">39%</p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p> </p>
<p>That’s an average daily rate of 271 MWh/d…</p>
<p>That’s 924 million British Thermal Units per day (mm Btu/d).</p>
<ol>
<li>A typical <a href="http://www.ogj.com/articles/uogr/print/volume-2/issue-3/marcellus-continues-to-defy-expectations-driving-us-gas-production-ever-higher.html">Marcellus natural gas well </a>produces 5,000 mm Btu/d.</li>
<li>A typical <a href="https://www.rystadenergy.com/newsevents/news/press-releases/shale-vs-offshore/">deepwater oil well in the Gulf of Mexico</a> produces 5,000 barrel/d, nearly 30,000 mm Btu/d.</li>
<li>The Block Island Wind Farm produces 924 mm Btu/d.</li>
</ol>
<p>It’s unfair to directly compare wellhead natural gas production to electricity output from a power plant.</p>
<p>OK fair enough.</p>
<p></p>
<table width="520">
<tbody><tr><td><p>Natural Gas</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: left;">Btu/kWh</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> <a href="https://www.eia.gov/electricity/annual/html/epa_08_01.html">7,870</a></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Well Production</p>
</td>
<td><p>Btu/d</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 5,000,000,000</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Electricity Output</p>
</td>
<td><p>kWh/d</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 635,324</p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr><td><p>Electricity Output </p>
</td>
<td><p>MWh/d</p>
</td>
<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 635</p>
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<tr><td><p>Electricity Output </p>
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<td><p>Block Islands worth 635/271 =</p>
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<td><p style="text-align: right;"> 2.3</p>
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<p>A single typical Marcellus gas well yields 2.3 Block Islands worth of electricity-equivalent energy per day.</p>
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<p>However, the wind electricity could not exist on the grid without the other generators, mostly gas fired, performing the peaking, filling in and balancing 24/7/365, in the event wind is insufficient.</p>
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<p>Sometimes there is very little wind 5 to 7 days in a row. Those lulls can happen any time of the year, and are particularly stressful in winter.</p>
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<p>That crippled wind electricity is sold at 9 c/kWh, wholesale, whereas the gas turbine electricity is NOT VARIABLE, AND NOT INTERMITTENT, AND IS NOT A CRIPPLE, and costs about 5 c/kWh, wholesale.</p>
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<p>Maine going for wind is an economic disaster in the making.</p>
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<p>Maine should concentrate on ENERGY EFFICIENCY OF BUILDINGS AND VEHICLES</p> Stupid is as Stupid Does.
tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-10-21:4401701:Comment:1761212019-10-21T23:15:44.366Zarthur qwenkhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/arthurqwenk
<p>Stupid is as Stupid Does.</p>
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<p>Stupid is as Stupid Does.</p>
<p></p> Mills and Cuomo are religious…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-10-21:4401701:Comment:1763132019-10-21T20:46:13.995ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p>Mills and Cuomo are religiously opposed to more pipeline capacity, even though gas has been THE MAJOR REDUCER of CO2 for the US.</p>
<p>Gas provides 50% of NE generated electricity, 24/7/365, steady, not variable, not intermittent, at about 5 c/kWh, wholesale.</p>
<p>Wind and solar could not even exist on the grid without gas plants to do the peaking, filling in and balancing, 24/7/365, plus these highly subsidized, coddled cripples generate at 9c for wind and 11c for solar,…</p>
<p>Mills and Cuomo are religiously opposed to more pipeline capacity, even though gas has been THE MAJOR REDUCER of CO2 for the US.</p>
<p>Gas provides 50% of NE generated electricity, 24/7/365, steady, not variable, not intermittent, at about 5 c/kWh, wholesale.</p>
<p>Wind and solar could not even exist on the grid without gas plants to do the peaking, filling in and balancing, 24/7/365, plus these highly subsidized, coddled cripples generate at 9c for wind and 11c for solar, wholesale.</p>
<p>Dont you just LOVE it?</p>