Comments - ELECTRIC CARS LOSE RANGE DURING HOT AND COLD WEATHER - Citizens' Task Force on Wind Power - Maine2024-03-29T12:20:37Zhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4401701%3ABlogPost%3A158427&xn_auth=noSome states use a Road Use ta…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-10:4401701:Comment:1589012019-02-10T18:02:59.379ZEric A. Tuttlehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/EricATuttle
<p>Some states use a Road Use tax method for road damage based on the weight of the vehicle + Gasoline Tax.</p>
<p>Since Electricity is approximately equal to </p>
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<p>For every 33.56 kWh these electric vehicles should be assessed a tax on an equal sum for gasoline. At the…</p>
<p>Some states use a Road Use tax method for road damage based on the weight of the vehicle + Gasoline Tax.</p>
<p>Since Electricity is approximately equal to </p>
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<colgroup><col width="51"></col><col width="42"></col><col width="39"></col></colgroup><tbody><tr><td>33.56</td>
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<p>For every 33.56 kWh these electric vehicles should be assessed a tax on an equal sum for gasoline. At the Charging Stations, and at the Home through a metering system. (hopefully not the CMP system) </p>
<p>Then they should be assessed a Weight Tax at the time of registration similar to commercial vehicles. </p>
<p></p> "Cold temperatures can sap el…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-10:4401701:Comment:1584742019-02-10T17:43:52.561Zarthur qwenkhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/arthurqwenk
<p><span>"Cold temperatures can sap electric car batteries, temporarily reducing their range by more than 40 percent when interior heaters are used, a new study found. For example, AAA’s testers determined that the Tesla’s range when fully charged at 75 degrees was 239 miles, but it fell 91 miles, or 38 percent, at 20 degrees." (AP 2/7/19) </span><br/><br/><span>Musk is the world's biggest scam artist. Now, how are the lines doing for Tesla purchases in Maine?</span></p>
<p><span>"Cold temperatures can sap electric car batteries, temporarily reducing their range by more than 40 percent when interior heaters are used, a new study found. For example, AAA’s testers determined that the Tesla’s range when fully charged at 75 degrees was 239 miles, but it fell 91 miles, or 38 percent, at 20 degrees." (AP 2/7/19) </span><br/><br/><span>Musk is the world's biggest scam artist. Now, how are the lines doing for Tesla purchases in Maine?</span></p> Surtax at sale EV's for the l…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-09:4401701:Comment:1585852019-02-09T19:44:05.306Zarthur qwenkhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/arthurqwenk
<p>Surtax at sale EV's for the larger weight they have from batteries versus ICE auto weight.(significantly less per unit volume)</p>
<p>Weight of Tesla 3 ~4000lbs </p>
<p>Weight of Toyota Corolla ~2800 lbs</p>
<p><strong>Road damage from Tesla based on weight is more than a Corolla (similar size 2 axle vehicle)</strong>.</p>
<p>How much does Tesla pay for gas tax at pump = $0</p>
<p>How much doe Toyota pay ?(<span>with 30.01 cents in state </span><b>taxes </b><span>and fees per…</span></p>
<p>Surtax at sale EV's for the larger weight they have from batteries versus ICE auto weight.(significantly less per unit volume)</p>
<p>Weight of Tesla 3 ~4000lbs </p>
<p>Weight of Toyota Corolla ~2800 lbs</p>
<p><strong>Road damage from Tesla based on weight is more than a Corolla (similar size 2 axle vehicle)</strong>.</p>
<p>How much does Tesla pay for gas tax at pump = $0</p>
<p>How much doe Toyota pay ?(<span>with 30.01 cents in state </span><b>taxes </b><span>and fees per gallon of gasoline).</span></p>
<p><span><strong>What a great revenue source if they ever sell well in Maine</strong>(doubtful). </span></p>
<p><span>TAX EV's FOR ROAD DAMAGE which is caused by their heavier weight (presently they do not get taxed for use on Maines roads).</span></p> If an EV gets 100 MPG EQUIVAL…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-08:4401701:Comment:1585562019-02-08T20:49:39.996ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p>If an EV gets 100 MPG EQUIVALENT, per phony EPA method, its real mileage is about 30 to 35 MPG, because all upstream energy, from mine to power plant, to grid, to user wall plug, is ignored.</p>
<p>If an EV gets 100 MPG EQUIVALENT, per phony EPA method, its real mileage is about 30 to 35 MPG, because all upstream energy, from mine to power plant, to grid, to user wall plug, is ignored.</p> Willem, I agree with the over…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-08:4401701:Comment:1586492019-02-08T20:44:09.367ZEric A. Tuttlehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/EricATuttle
<p>Willem, I agree with the overall analysis. These like wind turbines are a Fad of Folley destine to create more toxic landfills in someone's community or outlying land here in the U.S. rather than being fully recycled. </p>
<p>Even if it were true that they achieve a 100mpg equivalent (which I doubt) that would be equal to $7.40 per gallon, or greater if the performance is less.</p>
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<p>Willem, I agree with the overall analysis. These like wind turbines are a Fad of Folley destine to create more toxic landfills in someone's community or outlying land here in the U.S. rather than being fully recycled. </p>
<p>Even if it were true that they achieve a 100mpg equivalent (which I doubt) that would be equal to $7.40 per gallon, or greater if the performance is less.</p>
<p> </p> Whether EVs are used, or not…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-08:4401701:Comment:1584442019-02-08T20:31:19.467ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p>Whether EVs are used, or not used, some of the electricity is taken from the battery to operate various systems</p>
<p>Some of the electricity would still be lost, even if no systems were operated.</p>
<p>Some of the electricity is lost during charging.</p>
<p>The total of these losses is about 21% for the Tesla Model 3 in California.</p>
<p>Such losses likely would be greater in colder climates, such as the New England </p>
<p>Whether EVs are used, or not used, some of the electricity is taken from the battery to operate various systems</p>
<p>Some of the electricity would still be lost, even if no systems were operated.</p>
<p>Some of the electricity is lost during charging.</p>
<p>The total of these losses is about 21% for the Tesla Model 3 in California.</p>
<p>Such losses likely would be greater in colder climates, such as the New England </p> Eric Tuttle,
Please read this…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-08:4401701:Comment:1586472019-02-08T20:21:30.028ZWillem Posthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/WillemPost942
<p>Eric Tuttle,</p>
<p>Please read this article about the phony EPA method of calculating mileage for EVs.</p>
<p>That method is uses NOWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD.</p>
<p>Eric Tuttle,</p>
<p>Please read this article about the phony EPA method of calculating mileage for EVs.</p>
<p>That method is uses NOWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD.</p> 5 Years will be about the tur…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-08:4401701:Comment:1586452019-02-08T20:08:19.648ZEric A. Tuttlehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/EricATuttle
<p>5 Years will be about the turnover time when the battery is about to die. Rooking someone to burden the expense of a change. Not to mention all the other problems that may be inherited.</p>
<p>5 Years will be about the turnover time when the battery is about to die. Rooking someone to burden the expense of a change. Not to mention all the other problems that may be inherited.</p> I've read that electric cars…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-08:4401701:Comment:1584432019-02-08T20:08:11.705ZThinklike A. Mountainhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/ThinklikeAMountain
<p>I've read that electric cars are more expensive to insure and that this can be based on a number of factors such as:</p>
<p>1. Used more in urban settings where cars tend to be packed closer to each other on the road causing more accidents.</p>
<p>2. Lighter materials may be used meaning collision damage may be more severe</p>
<p>3. Damage to battery and other electronics may cost more to repair</p>
<p>4. Electric cars accelerate faster</p>
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<p>Given the faster loss in resale value…</p>
<p>I've read that electric cars are more expensive to insure and that this can be based on a number of factors such as:</p>
<p>1. Used more in urban settings where cars tend to be packed closer to each other on the road causing more accidents.</p>
<p>2. Lighter materials may be used meaning collision damage may be more severe</p>
<p>3. Damage to battery and other electronics may cost more to repair</p>
<p>4. Electric cars accelerate faster</p>
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<p>Given the faster loss in resale value for electric vehicles, are they more likely to het totaled by the insurance company sending them to be crushed sooner?</p> Electric car battery warranti…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2019-02-08:4401701:Comment:1586442019-02-08T20:04:48.534ZEric A. Tuttlehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/EricATuttle
<p><b>Electric car battery</b><span> warranties. </span><b>Car</b><span> makers are well aware that potential buyers are concerned about the </span><b>longevity</b><span> of their </span><b>car's batteries</b><span>, and many offer warranties tailored for EV owners. On the Leaf, for example, Nissan offers a warranty covering the </span><b>battery</b><span> and </span><b>electric</b><span> motor for up to five years or 60,000 miles.</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr">Battery life is one of the…</p>
<p><b>Electric car battery</b><span> warranties. </span><b>Car</b><span> makers are well aware that potential buyers are concerned about the </span><b>longevity</b><span> of their </span><b>car's batteries</b><span>, and many offer warranties tailored for EV owners. On the Leaf, for example, Nissan offers a warranty covering the </span><b>battery</b><span> and </span><b>electric</b><span> motor for up to five years or 60,000 miles.</span></p>
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<p dir="ltr">Battery life is one of the biggest worries potential buyers have when considering an<span> </span><a href="https://www.whatcar.com/category/electric">electric car</a>. Along with range – and the fear of running out of power mid-journey, known as range anxiety – the way an electric car’s battery might degrade over time is considered a big barrier to EV ownership.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Like any battery, including the one in your mobile phone or laptop, the batteries in electric cars will lose some of their capacity over extended use. Below, we’ve explained why this happens and offered advice on how you can keep your electric car battery in top condition for longer.</p>
<p dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.whatcar.com/advice/owning/how-long-do-electric-vehicle-batteries-last-for/n18117" target="_blank">https://www.whatcar.com/advice/owning/how-long-do-electric-vehicle-batteries-last-for/n18117</a></p>