Good day Dan! Water power worked fine in Maine 100 years ago! No reason why small and large water power from Maine can on bring 20,000 jobs to our State! No dams needed today just water moving downhill to generator stations! And small water power being developed in all Maine schools, there are streams and rivers near most town in Maine! I have been working with The Dept. of Education for 30 years but they are slow in moving in a positive direction! Water power is the only truly clean power that runs for nothing 24 hours even day!! Taxation without representation when it comes to commercial wind power and they push up the national debt do they not?! Lenny Murphy 207-746-9212 Time to get real solutions within our future projects!
Hey Dan. How many signatures do we need on the petition to get the ordinance language on the June ballot? And what is the deadline to get those signatures? Take care, Hart
Someone needs to find a way to let the public know what the wind ordinance is about and what is says. I blame our town officials for this lack of information being brought to the public. Many people I have talked to have shot down the past attempts because they think saying "yes" means they are saying "yes" to wind turbines in the area. They need to know it is not "yes come put up turbines" but "yes we are restrincting them". They must be informed in a way and wording people in general can understand. Or, maybe I am wrong and I don't even understand. People need to understand before going to the poles without having to attend meetings. Just my thoughts.
At 8:47pm on September 19, 2011, Sarah Nedeau said…
Ha! I agree; however, we also had Wendy Todd from Mars Hill and I doubt if we would have been successful without her appearance. You could have heard a pin drop when she spoke at our informational meeting. I wish everyone could see the videos of the Mars Hill residents being interviewed after their project went online, a lot of questions could be answered just by watching them. What is amazing is how the opposition has grown in such a short time. What was once phone calls (remember talking years ago??!) and emails between everyone has now become a Statewide coalition with websites and blogs, thanks to the more technical folks! I have faith more projects will be voted down and much of Maine will remain special.
At 8:23pm on September 19, 2011, Sarah Nedeau said…
Hi Dan
I wish I had one dollar for every Roxbury resident who has recently exclaimed, "Wow, I didn't know they were going to be THAT big." I hope all surrounding towns pay attention to size and location and the scam Big Wind represents. What is sad is that Byron voted them out yet several of us have to be subjected to them. What's even sadder is that one of our Selectwomen appeared at a Roxbury informational meeting and called all of us in Byron "dumb" for voting the way we did.
Freemont will get me a DVD of the forum. I also contacted Mark Rogers directly and rec'd the spreadsheet. I also contacted Dan Fayen; Staff Writer and he stated the SunJournal didn't have enough room but he will be submitting an article and sending me a copy.
Dan did you or Alice get a copy of Mark Rogers financial spread sheet that he presented at the Wind Forum at Dirigo HS? If so, can you send me a copy via email?
Yup, for the first time this sort of presentation is going to include a look/listen to what the experience of wind farm noise is like. Not a lot of time, and not a primary focus on horror stories (plenty of those online), but definitely about the fact that noise annoyance is a serious issue, not a fringe phenomenon or just a "few individuals". we'll see how it goes. see http://aeinews.org/archives/category/wind-turbines for my previous coverage
Leola,
As with Woodstock, Carthage was suddenly presented a project no one had understanding of how it would affect them. Overwhelmed with offers of new money, many town officials envisioned solutions to revenue loss. They accepted the wind developer's assurances as well as the state's hastily developed policies which has the DEP trying to cope with human health issues. The idea of these giant wind machines within a town , all too often, presents a struggle town officials are unwilling to undertake as it relates to citizen health and welfare, therefore, they take the easy course of believing the wind developer and the state. Ask anyone who is attempting to write a wind ordinance for their town and they will tell you what an immense undertaking it is.
As with any venture allowed to proceed too fast, regrets will surely follow and wishes one had taken the time to study will be brought forth.
Believe it or not, many people in Carthage believe they will have an opportunity to register their vote on whether to allow these machines in Carthage.
The actions you are taking is not too late. The knowledge you will be imparting to your citizens will solicit the same responses Freemont and I often hear : " I wasn't aware of that ! "
As our town officials fail to look out for the protective interests of their citizens, whether they are of a few or many, it is imperative to make each citizen realize that their health and welfare may have to initiate with them.
I did look up the wind developer's Woodstock site application with the DEP and was curious to find the town planning board had issued a waiver to the town's noise standards and thus allowing the wind developer the opportunity to increase the night time noise limits from 45 Dba to 50 Dba. This was done with knowing what is happening in Mars Hill, Freedom and Vinalhaven , not to mention thruout the country and worldwide ?
Dan, over here in Woodstock things are warming up. I have a list of all the voters in Woodstock, all the abuttment list, and it shames me to say that whoever is in charge of the protected wetlands have allowed Patriot Renewables to build within 500ft of the wetlands. All the money figures are blocked out so you can't tell how much the pay offs were to these people. The more I dig the dirtier this whole mess looks. Woodstock town manager seems to think it funny that all the green activist don't like the wind turbines. I probly should have told him, its because they are not GREEN. How did your meeting go? Please fill me in and do you know what is going on in Carthage? Patriot is over there too. Leola
Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT
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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/
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Good day Dan! Water power worked fine in Maine 100 years ago! No reason why small and large water power from Maine can on bring 20,000 jobs to our State! No dams needed today just water moving downhill to generator stations! And small water power being developed in all Maine schools, there are streams and rivers near most town in Maine! I have been working with The Dept. of Education for 30 years but they are slow in moving in a positive direction! Water power is the only truly clean power that runs for nothing 24 hours even day!! Taxation without representation when it comes to commercial wind power and they push up the national debt do they not?! Lenny Murphy 207-746-9212 Time to get real solutions within our future projects!
Dan,
Excellent letter to the editor in the RFT's yesterday!
Hart
Hey Dan. How many signatures do we need on the petition to get the ordinance language on the June ballot? And what is the deadline to get those signatures? Take care, Hart
Hi Dan
I wish I had one dollar for every Roxbury resident who has recently exclaimed, "Wow, I didn't know they were going to be THAT big." I hope all surrounding towns pay attention to size and location and the scam Big Wind represents. What is sad is that Byron voted them out yet several of us have to be subjected to them. What's even sadder is that one of our Selectwomen appeared at a Roxbury informational meeting and called all of us in Byron "dumb" for voting the way we did.
Dan,
Freemont will get me a DVD of the forum. I also contacted Mark Rogers directly and rec'd the spreadsheet. I also contacted Dan Fayen; Staff Writer and he stated the SunJournal didn't have enough room but he will be submitting an article and sending me a copy.
As with Woodstock, Carthage was suddenly presented a project no one had understanding of how it would affect them. Overwhelmed with offers of new money, many town officials envisioned solutions to revenue loss. They accepted the wind developer's assurances as well as the state's hastily developed policies which has the DEP trying to cope with human health issues. The idea of these giant wind machines within a town , all too often, presents a struggle town officials are unwilling to undertake as it relates to citizen health and welfare, therefore, they take the easy course of believing the wind developer and the state. Ask anyone who is attempting to write a wind ordinance for their town and they will tell you what an immense undertaking it is.
As with any venture allowed to proceed too fast, regrets will surely follow and wishes one had taken the time to study will be brought forth.
Believe it or not, many people in Carthage believe they will have an opportunity to register their vote on whether to allow these machines in Carthage.
The actions you are taking is not too late. The knowledge you will be imparting to your citizens will solicit the same responses Freemont and I often hear : " I wasn't aware of that ! "
As our town officials fail to look out for the protective interests of their citizens, whether they are of a few or many, it is imperative to make each citizen realize that their health and welfare may have to initiate with them.
I did look up the wind developer's Woodstock site application with the DEP and was curious to find the town planning board had issued a waiver to the town's noise standards and thus allowing the wind developer the opportunity to increase the night time noise limits from 45 Dba to 50 Dba. This was done with knowing what is happening in Mars Hill, Freedom and Vinalhaven , not to mention thruout the country and worldwide ?
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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/
Not yet a member?
Sign up today and lend your voice and presence to the steadily rising tide that will soon sweep the scourge of useless and wretched turbines from our beloved Maine countryside. For many of us, our little pieces of paradise have been hard won. Did the carpetbaggers think they could simply steal them from us?
We have the facts on our side. We have the truth on our side. All we need now is YOU.
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-- Mahatma Gandhi
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Vince Lombardi
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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law
"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."
https://pinetreewatch.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/
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