Comments - Maine DEP Developing New Rule For Wind Power Projects (PIERCE ATWOOD) - Citizens' Task Force on Wind Power - Maine2024-03-29T00:35:03Zhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4401701%3ABlogPost%3A81038&xn_auth=noNO FEMa money without PHN....…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-07-23:4401701:Comment:809802016-07-23T21:24:09.312Zalice mckay barnetthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/alicemckaybarnett
<p>NO FEMa money without PHN.........complaints registered....cost? hot line? </p>
<p>NO FEMa money without PHN.........complaints registered....cost? hot line? </p> Local Health Officers in Main…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-07-23:4401701:Comment:807612016-07-23T21:22:30.111Zalice mckay barnetthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/alicemckaybarnett
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</div> Unfortunately, reasonable is…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-07-21:4401701:Comment:809612016-07-21T13:22:43.716ZEric A. Tuttlehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/EricATuttle
<p>Unfortunately, reasonable is determined by people. What may seem reasonable or unreasonable is usually determined by those with power and authority unless sufficient voices are heard from by the masses. Often reasonable is determined by those not affected well out of range of the effected areas or would never be bothered or lose quality of place and only see it as beneficial overall, especially their own personal gains directly or indirectly.</p>
<p>Our attacks on Nature to harvest its…</p>
<p>Unfortunately, reasonable is determined by people. What may seem reasonable or unreasonable is usually determined by those with power and authority unless sufficient voices are heard from by the masses. Often reasonable is determined by those not affected well out of range of the effected areas or would never be bothered or lose quality of place and only see it as beneficial overall, especially their own personal gains directly or indirectly.</p>
<p>Our attacks on Nature to harvest its bounty of natural resources is unreasonable at times unless we know that they are renewable in a reasonable amount of time. When we consume more than can be replaced in our lifetime, those resources are not providing us a living without robbing from the future.</p>
<p>Wind turbines that can not last past a person's lifetime without replacement or constant repairs are robbing, not equalizing or gaining for mankind what mankind took from nature. This in itself is unreasonable. The Peace, calming effects, quality of place and life the unfettered views of Maine's Natural Environment provides is not of equal value or an improvement upon what Nature provides. This too is unreasonable.</p>
<p>Small scale local or privately owned turbines that are non intrusive to others is More reasonable than Massive intrusive turbines imposed upon others to provide for others who take in excess without knowledge, thought or concern of how it may be affecting people nor the lands they occupy. This is an unreasonable aspect of both Wind and solar which is fast becoming Landfill covers (another excuse to create another landfill or expand one?). </p> P.S.
Is the catch-22 still in…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-07-21:4401701:Comment:806632016-07-21T06:16:54.277ZKathy Shermanhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/KathleenASherman
P.S.<br />
Is the catch-22 still in "unreasonable" adverse effects?
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Is the catch-22 still in "unreasonable" adverse effects? This seems like such a long t…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-07-21:4401701:Comment:806612016-07-21T06:13:21.011ZKathy Shermanhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/KathleenASherman
This seems like such a long time coming, as do all "reforms" to correct bad wind energy siting. I think that it would be HUGELY helpful to collate 1) the recommendations of Woodcock<br />
2) former Commissioner Aho's testimony dates and brief summary of it to legislative subcommittee - I was just really struck by her admission that she could not provide numbers etc. on bird kills although her staff had data.<br />
3) former Commissioner Aho's testimony, I believe to Maine Supreme Judicial Court re…
This seems like such a long time coming, as do all "reforms" to correct bad wind energy siting. I think that it would be HUGELY helpful to collate 1) the recommendations of Woodcock<br />
2) former Commissioner Aho's testimony dates and brief summary of it to legislative subcommittee - I was just really struck by her admission that she could not provide numbers etc. on bird kills although her staff had data.<br />
3) former Commissioner Aho's testimony, I believe to Maine Supreme Judicial Court re cumulative impact on Ponds<br />
4) Testimony and lectures by landscape architects that turbines should be clustered rather than scattered - that's one thing that strikes me about Oakfield photo of view from opposite side of Spectacle Pond, the turbines were scattered across mountain. More importantly, the shadow just of the towers (never mind rotating shadows) crossed the entire pond. These are issues that are unaddressed by pre-construction visuals.<br />
5) Denmark provided guidelines about siting turbines where they would harmonize with pre-existing landscape, places where there was already tall structures such as cranes at a working waterfront, NOT ridgetops.<br />
6) I agree about not making testimony "emotional" in language such as monstrosities or subjective "ugly", but would advocate turning each "personal" into as much "scientific" as you can. There is no great science on any of this, which developers have honed into a real art. They show ugly foreground, whether a dirty snow bank, crooked telephone poles or rusty guardrail with invasive brush, and only distant miniscule turbines on a hilltop. That is not human perception that would focus only on the vista, not the foreground.<br />
The still photo does not capture impacts on night sky or impacts of rotating 2 acre disc, as examples. Small in number or not, I do think that it is important to identify all aspects of the "intrusion" created by current generation grid-scale wind turbines before they are 600 ft. towers and 460 ft. wide rotors.<br />
Also, what it takes to capture review is important as illustrated by Clifton, Vinalhaven (which should have gotten better review because of federal money), Falmouth MA (ditto) and many 1-5 turbine projects along coastal MA. @Paula D Kelso
" Because Pisg…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-07-20:4401701:Comment:805732016-07-20T20:29:56.070ZEric A. Tuttlehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/EricATuttle
<p>@Paula D Kelso</p>
<p><span>" Because Pisgah supposedly won't have the minimum disturbed acreage to trigger full DEP review and is less than 10MW "</span></p>
<p align="justify" style="margin: 60px;"><span>It is things like these that we need to speak out against at these hearings. Not in an emotional personal way but in a way that is both realistic, scientific and for the benefit of all communities and peoples of Maine. One Germ reproduced no matter how insignificant becomes and infection,…</span></p>
<p>@Paula D Kelso</p>
<p><span>" Because Pisgah supposedly won't have the minimum disturbed acreage to trigger full DEP review and is less than 10MW "</span></p>
<p align="justify" style="margin: 60px;"><span>It is things like these that we need to speak out against at these hearings. Not in an emotional personal way but in a way that is both realistic, scientific and for the benefit of all communities and peoples of Maine. One Germ reproduced no matter how insignificant becomes and infection, and an infection becomes a loss of life.</span></p> Maine DEP Developing New Rul…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2016-07-20:4401701:Comment:809592016-07-20T18:48:18.941ZEric A. Tuttlehttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/EricATuttle
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<p align="justify" style="margin: 20px;">Under these "New Rules" I would say many of Maine's Turbines would not have been constructed based on Scenic Character alone, however that may only apply to the SRSNC not the average person who has to endure the view of over 50% of a project.</p>
<hr/><p>Comment from my duplicated Post</p>
<hr/><p align="justify" style=""margin: 20px;">Comment by <strong>Paula D Kelso</strong> 53 minutes ago</p>
<p align="justify" style=""margin: 20px;">One of the unfortunate gaps in current DEP reg's is the ability of projects like the 5 turbine one in Clifton to slip under the radar with a very cursory DEP review. Because Pisgah supposedly won't have the minimum disturbed acreage to trigger full DEP review and is less than 10MW, there were no DEP hearings here or any formal process involving the Town. Also, since the Town does, supposedly, have stricter regulations than the State, our local officials will be primarily responsible for monitoring and enforcing compliance. Oh wait, our provisions for monitoring and enforcing are so convoluted that the burden is on the person making a complaint and to follow through on a complaint would require months, if not years, and almost assuredly considerable expenditure by the complaintant. So it really doesn't matter what the regulation is, no one short of Donald Trump is going to challenge the wind facility owner, operator or town officials. Please someone who is going to approach the DEP on the revisions, ask about removing this loophole on small projects that still have horrific community impact.</p>