Comments - Comment of the Day in the Bangor Daily News - OAKFIELD - Citizens' Task Force on Wind Power - Maine2024-03-28T19:32:17Zhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=4401701%3ABlogPost%3A33714&xn_auth=nolooks like we are looking …tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2011-11-25:4401701:Comment:337212011-11-25T21:56:41.579Zalice mckay barnetthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/alicemckaybarnett
<p>looks like we are looking ty</p>
<p>looks like we are looking ty</p> From the EIA, Energy Informat…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2011-11-25:4401701:Comment:339362011-11-25T18:11:30.118ZDan McKayhttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/DanMcKay
<p><strong>From the EIA, Energy Information Administration, an independent agency of the DOE :</strong></p>
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<p>Add in power purchase agreements with RECs that go for $85 to $100 per megawatt hour . This is unbelievable money and brings about returns of investment not many industries will see. </p>
<p>How towns can settle on such meager tangible benefits is beyond me.</p>
<p>The numbers show that small towns like Oakfield, Carthage and Roxbury could acquire a…</p>
<p><strong>From the EIA, Energy Information Administration, an independent agency of the DOE :</strong></p>
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<p><img src="http://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Federal-Electric-Subsidies.png"/></p>
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<p>Add in power purchase agreements with RECs that go for $85 to $100 per megawatt hour . This is unbelievable money and brings about returns of investment not many industries will see. </p>
<p>How towns can settle on such meager tangible benefits is beyond me.</p>
<p>The numbers show that small towns like Oakfield, Carthage and Roxbury could acquire a benefit that would pay every household's electric bill and this would still only be less than 15% of the subsidy gift, and far less than investor's return. I ask, who owns the playing field here. Kind of slanted one way, in my opinion. </p> How do RECs work?
All grid-t…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2011-11-25:4401701:Comment:338322011-11-25T13:27:19.172Zalice mckay barnetthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/alicemckaybarnett
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<p style="line-height: 15px; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; margin-top: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 1.3em;"><span class="yiv867185402Apple-style-span" style="background-color: #ffffff;">All grid-tied renewable-based electricity…</span></p>
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<p style="line-height: 15px; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; margin-top: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 1.3em; background-color: #ffffff;">At <br/>the point of generation, both product components can be sold together or <br/>separately, as a bundled or unbundled product. In either case, the renewable <br/>generator feeds the physical electricity onto the electricity grid, where it <br/>mixes with electricity from other generation sources. Since electrons from all <br/>generation sources are indistinguishable, it is impossible to track the physical <br/>electrons from a specific point of generation to a specific point of use.</p>
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<p style="line-height: 15px; font-family: Verdana, Tahoma, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; margin-top: 1.3em; margin-bottom: 1.3em; background-color: #ffffff;">As <br/>renewable generators produce electricity, they create one REC for every 1000 <br/>kilowatt-hours (or 1 megawatt-hour) of electricity placed on the grid. If the <br/>physical electricity and the associated RECs are sold to separate buyers, the <br/>electricity is no longer considered “renewable” or “green.” The REC product is <br/>what conveys the attributes and benefits of the renewable electricity, not the <br/>electricity itself.</p>
</div> Meanwhile , the will sell REC…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2011-11-25:4401701:Comment:338272011-11-25T01:22:25.014ZMike DiCensohttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/MikeDiCenso
<p>Meanwhile , the will sell RECs to pad their bank accounts. Oakfield should have demanded a 20% cut of REC profits but the 88 citizens who voted for the TIF were too busy thinking about how to spend their bribe money down to the Ban-goah Mall. Community benefits package... another half thought out approval by the legislature.</p>
<p>Meanwhile , the will sell RECs to pad their bank accounts. Oakfield should have demanded a 20% cut of REC profits but the 88 citizens who voted for the TIF were too busy thinking about how to spend their bribe money down to the Ban-goah Mall. Community benefits package... another half thought out approval by the legislature.</p> As Jimi Hendrix may have put…tag:www.windtaskforce.org,2011-11-24:4401701:Comment:338232011-11-24T13:09:48.252Zalice mckay barnetthttps://www.windtaskforce.org/profile/alicemckaybarnett
<p style="text-align: left;">As Jimi Hendrix may have put it: “And the wind cries <em>bankrupt</em>…”</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5xnI25Z7ock/Sxa24HUYgFI/AAAAAAAAAN8/E8kHJaUtq38/s320/Don-Quixote-Windmill.gif" width="280"></img></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Minnesotans for Global Warming report that in the last 30 years, the United States has had 14,000 wind turbines abandoned. Apparently, once the subsidies and the wind run out, these 20-story high Cuisinarts are de-bladed and retired. This means more bats and migratory birds will…</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">As Jimi Hendrix may have put it: “And the wind cries <em>bankrupt</em>…”</p>
<p><img width="280" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5xnI25Z7ock/Sxa24HUYgFI/AAAAAAAAAN8/E8kHJaUtq38/s320/Don-Quixote-Windmill.gif" class="alignright"/></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Minnesotans for Global Warming report that in the last 30 years, the United States has had 14,000 wind turbines abandoned. Apparently, once the subsidies and the wind run out, these 20-story high Cuisinarts are de-bladed and retired. This means more bats and migratory birds will live.</p>