New rule on volume of wind turbines now in effect
New rule on volume of wind turbines now in effect
BURLINGTON, Vt. (WCAX) - How loud wind turbines can run has been whipping up debate for years.
A rule on the volume of newly constructed wind turbines goes into effect Wednesday.
The Public Utilities Commission just ruled turbines can run 42 decibels during the day and 39 at night. State leaders say that’s like a quiet suburban neighborhood, a quiet conversation or a library.
The numbers are below the World Health Organization's guidelines for noise, but not [sic] some say the drop in decibels isn't enough and isn't the only problem in play.
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Comment by Eric A. Tuttle on November 25, 2017 at 4:43pm
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[1]http://americanhistory.si.edu/powering/past/history2.htm
[2] Robert Bryce, Smaller Faster Lighter Denser Cheaper (Public Affairs)
[3]http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_warcur.html
[4]http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_warcur.html
[5]http://historyrat.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/lighting-the-1893-worlds...
[6]http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_niagara.html
[7]https://archive.org/stream/niagarapowerhist00adam/niagarapowerhist0...
[8] McDonald, Insull, p. 38
[9]https://www.comed.com/about-us/company-information/Pages/history.aspx
[10] Robert Bradley, Edison to Enron, p. 115
[11]http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/whomade/insull_hi.html
[12]http://www.eei.org/issuesandpolicy/transmission/Pages/default.aspx
[13]http://www.ercot.com/about
[14]http://energy.gov/oe/information-center/educational-resources/elect...
[15] A note on buying “green” power: In each of the interconnections discussed above (Eastern Interconnection, Western Interconnection, and ERCOT), the electricity flowing through the transmission grid is part of a “power pool.” All of the electricity on the same grid is, in a sense, mixed together. There is no way to distinguish between the electrons generated by renewable sources and those by fossil fuels. In other words, the transmission grid does not keep “green” power separate from conventional power. For that reason, programs that claim to offer customers “100 percent green” power are more symbolic than literal.
[16]http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=12711
[17]http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=105&t=3
[18]http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_1/2.html
[19]http://www.theenergylibrary.com/node/647
[20]http://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/index.cfm?page=electricity_facto...
[21]http://www.wecc.biz/committees/BOD/TEPPC/TAS/121012/Lists/Minutes/1/121005_TransCapCostReport_
finaldraft.pdf[22]http://www.nerc.com/files/Final_BES_vs%20_BPS_Memo_20120410.pdf
[23] Some RTOs go by an almost interchangeable name, Independent System Operators (ISOs). The other one third of U.S. wholesale electricity is supplied by “bilateral” or contract-based markets http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=13511
[24]http://www.pjm.com/about-pjm/learning-center/markets-and-operations...
[25]https://www.misoenergy.org/AboutUs/MediaCenter/PressReleases/Pages/...
[26]http://www.eei.org/resourcesandmedia/industrydataanalysis/industryd...
[27]http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=17711
[28]http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/01/americas-third-world...
[29]http://www.ferc.gov/industries/electric/indus-act/trans-plan.asp
[30]http://www.ferc.gov/legal/fed-sta/ferc-and-epact-2005.pdf
[31]http://www.ferc.gov/industries/electric/indus-act/rto/ercot.asp
[32]http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2003/08/w...
[33]http://www.nationaljournal.com/new-energy-paradigm/how-green-energy... and http://www.texastribune.org/2013/10/14/7-billion-crez-project-nears...
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https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/electricity-transmission/ May give a minimal insight.
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Comment by Long Islander on November 23, 2017 at 9:30am
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How do the transmission rates get calculated? It would seem that:
a) We should know the exact geographic location of every generator regardless of fuel source, e.g., wind, natural gas, hydro.
b) We should know the exact geographic location of every point of electricity consumption
So should it not be possible to build an algorithm which computes the distance of electron travel from point of generation to point of consumption and then assign this distance to every fuel source?
Haven't given this much thought, but by creating a consumption-weighted geographic center point in an ISO representing the average geographic point of consumption (let's say Worcester, MA for sake of argument), one could then calculate each individual point of generation's distance to this midpoint. By then combining each individual point of generation's electron output with its distance to the ISO center point, then every point of generation could be assigned "electron miles" representing how far its electrons must travel and how many of its electrons travel this distance. Then, electron miles for all points of generation in the ISO could be summed and each generation source's electron miles could be expressed as a percentage of that sum, total ISO electron miles. The result might show things like wind (built on average in the far reaches of northern New England) might be X% of the ISO's generation by 5X% of the ISO's electron miles.
Where am I going with this? Well, once we had those percentages, the ISO's total transmission costs could be allocated to each fuel source and printed on everyone's electric bills for one, revealing to consumers just how costly these feel good sources are. Again, I haven't given this much thought. Perhaps it shouldn't even be based on electron miles, but rather simply miles of transmission to the center point. After all, why should wind receive a reduction in the amount of miles of transmission it uses (the construction of which is often solely caused by remote wind's needs for the transmission) simply because of its paltry production?
Right now, the wind industry tells us their fuel is free and as they say -- figures can lie and liars can figure. The wind industry and the sockpuppets it has bought in the government, media and environmental groups would be deprived of their "wind is free" lie, if we allocated the fair share of transmission expense to each fuel source.
Maybe this calculation is already being done, or whatever calculation would correctly result in the fair assignment of transmission expense to each generation plant and ultimately, each fuel source. Have we seen this? If you can measure it you can manage it. Maybe we could manage to show everyone the extent of the wind ripoff and lies.
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Comment by Penny Gray on November 23, 2017 at 6:05am
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"This will certainly have a chilling effect on wind-energy in the state," said Davis. "However, the fact still remains that wind-energy is the cheapest new renewable energy available to New England. So, we'll have to see where things go from here," said Davis.
Guess we will, because if wind power is so darn cheap, why are electricity rates soaring?
Maine as Third World Country:
CMP Transmission Rate Skyrockets 19.6% Due to Wind Power
Click here to read how the Maine ratepayer has been sold down the river by the Angus King cabal.
Maine Center For Public Interest Reporting – Three Part Series: A CRITICAL LOOK AT MAINE’S WIND ACT
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(excerpts) From Part 1 – On Maine’s Wind Law “Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine if the law’s goals were met." . – Maine Center for Public Interest Reporting, August 2010 https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/From Part 2 – On Wind and Oil Yet using wind energy doesn’t lower dependence on imported foreign oil. That’s because the majority of imported oil in Maine is used for heating and transportation. And switching our dependence from foreign oil to Maine-produced electricity isn’t likely to happen very soon, says Bartlett. “Right now, people can’t switch to electric cars and heating – if they did, we’d be in trouble.” So was one of the fundamental premises of the task force false, or at least misleading?" https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/wind-swept-task-force-set-the-rules/From Part 3 – On Wind-Required New Transmission Lines Finally, the building of enormous, high-voltage transmission lines that the regional electricity system operator says are required to move substantial amounts of wind power to markets south of Maine was never even discussed by the task force – an omission that Mills said will come to haunt the state.“If you try to put 2,500 or 3,000 megawatts in northern or eastern Maine – oh, my god, try to build the transmission!” said Mills. “It’s not just the towers, it’s the lines – that’s when I begin to think that the goal is a little farfetched.” https://www.pinetreewatchdog.org/flaws-in-bill-like-skating-with-dull-skates/
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Hannah Pingree on the Maine expedited wind law
Hannah Pingree - Director of Maine's Office of Innovation and the Future
"Once the committee passed the wind energy bill on to the full House and Senate, lawmakers there didn’t even debate it. They passed it unanimously and with no discussion. House Majority Leader Hannah Pingree, a Democrat from North Haven, says legislators probably didn’t know how many turbines would be constructed in Maine."
https://pinetreewatch.org/wind-power-bandwagon-hits-bumps-in-the-road-3/
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